Palmers Green graduate gets Ontario executive job

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussions' started by Gert Potgieter, Oct 30, 2002.

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  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Now, remember Gert, this is not a mill. You are being an RA elitist by posting this. It is simply an alternative form of education documenation somewhat similar to portfolio credit for those whose are time and cost challenged. {Grin}

    Seriously, I don't know whether it is sadder that people obtain these credentials or then go around using them. It goes back to an issue with state approved degrees where advocates say they are accepted in industry and it cannot simply be that people are ignorant of accreditation/recognition. This seems to say the opposite as the guy had successfully used these credentials prior to their discovery in his current employment (and apparently from outside the agency). I think many HR depts simply do not understand or go to the trouble of research/verification. The HR Dept where I work does (and will not accept any unaccredited degrees) but obviously some do not check.

    North
     
  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    At my work they also check the credentials. At times even competent people can let things slip through the cracks. There is one case I know about from over 20 years ago, where someone was claiming a Ph.D. and got a job offer from my employer. He never actually started because he kept making excuses like getting sick, mother injured, grandmother dying. After about 6 months of this, they heard from another source that he'd really been working another job for the past 6 months. They checked up on his degree from a European University and it turned out that he didn't graduate. Anyway the point is that sometimes these things do happen even when policies are in place that should prevent it.
     
  3. John Roberts

    John Roberts New Member

    Gert, 'the piece in the Globe & Mail newspaper yesterday happens all the time. The interesting point about this story that has been discussed previously is 'do HR people know what they are doing when it comes to checking credentials of people?

    The Palmers Green MBA could be from any university, in this story for the Ontario government, it is likely that past positions, references, age of the applicant where taken over the MBA, which was seen as the icing. The guy probably did his job well (just like many poiticians with MBA/Ph.D), however there is always someone out there thats ready to discredit the poor fool.

    HR people dont check credentials, since they would feel as in the Ontario guys case to be in poor taste to even question such a high calibre guy about his MBA from such a 'prestigious named university' a term used by the diploma mill sellers?

    J.R (ic)
     
  4. Guest

    Guest Guest

  5. John Roberts

    John Roberts New Member

    Russell, no more and no less, just more being found out.

    Double grin & bare it.

    J.R (ic)
     
  6. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    Re: Re: Palmers Green graduate gets Ontario executive job

    Yes, at least until you get caught.

    John
     
  7. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    In my employment RA degrees are required and a background check is done to verify all credentials.

    John
     

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