Bachelor, Master, Doctor or Bachelor's, Master's, Doctorate?

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  1. adelheid

    adelheid New Member

    as a non-native speaker of the English language, I wonder what is the correct usage of the academic titles - maybe you can enlighten me:

    is it :
    Bachelor, Master, Doctor or
    Bachelor's, Master's, Doctorate?

    May the light of enlightenment be with you!

    adelheid:)
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It depends. "Bachelor's degree" is a generic term. "I have a bachelor's degree." "Associate's" and "master's" are also used in this fashion. However, it is not "doctor's degree" but, rather, "doctorate" or "doctoral degree." In all of these cases, "bachelor's," et. al., are adjectives modifying the noun "degree."

    "Bachelor," "master," and "doctor" are titles conferred by the institution granting the degree. Which is another reason why degrees from unaccredited schools should be considered separately from the work done to earn them. Just as being knighted by the Queen of England is certainly more prestigious than a similar award by the King of Tonga, a doctorate from a recognized university is far more prestigious that one from an unaccredited--and unrecognized--school. The titles are the same, but the sources are significantly different.
     
  3. Wes Grady

    Wes Grady New Member

    By custom we call it a bachelor's degree, but in reality it is a Baccalaureate degree. But that would confound the troops even more, so we all just say bachelor's.

    Wes
     
  4. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

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    use those of the first row to indentify individuals,eg, "This is Doctor Brown." Other two not commonly used or used with different applications.

    use those of the second row to modify the degree, eg, "Brown's doctorate is in English." Also, "Brown has a doctoral degree."
     
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  5. Knighthoods

    One must be aware that regardless of the prestige of who granted the Knightship, all knighthoods are not authorized as a credential in the United States. Would you want one if it was not available for anyone living in your home state????

    Dick
     
  6. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    Re: Re: Bachelor, Master, Doctor or Bachelor's, Master's, Doctorate?

     
  7. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Bachelor, Master, Doctor or Bachelor's, Master's, Doctorate?

     
  8. Wes Grady

    Wes Grady New Member

    Not meaning to be picky, but.... Royal titles are not recognized in the US, but that doesn't mean you can't hold them. When the Queen of England confired knighthood on Rudy Guliani, he bacame Sir Rudolph in England, and can rightfully sign his name as Rudolph Guliani, KBE. In the US, we would just laugh at him if he tried to use that title. In England, however, he would be given the appropriate consideration of this rank.

    And, we do recognize titles of those who come from the foreign country. We do, therefore, refer to Sir John Insall (my orthopedist!) as he is from England and has been knighted.

    Wes
     
  9. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

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    So, is it: " Sir Dr Insall" or "Dr Sir Insall" or "Dr Insall, sir" ??
     
  10. Wes Grady

    Wes Grady New Member

    British physicians who are specialists don't use the title Dr., they prefer Mr., in the case of my orthopod, it is Sir John Insall.

    Wes
     
  11. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Well, if you really want to get picky… ;)

    As Giuliani is not a British citizen, he not entitled to use of the prefix “Sir” anywhere. However, regardless of where he resides, he can add the initials K.B.E. after his name.
     
  12. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    ____________________________________________ Wes, cannot find "orthopod" in my dictionary!

    is my dictionary just incomplete, it is old!

    or, is that the English equivalent of "orthopedist"?

    or, are knighted orthopedists given an unusual descriptor of their function? (sorry:rolleyes: )

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  13. Wes Grady

    Wes Grady New Member

    Sorry, that is hospital slang for orthopedist or orthopaedist....

    Wes
     
  14. Mike Albrecht

    Mike Albrecht New Member

    Two possibilities, Wes has only one leg or the doctor only works on one leg (of the patient (sp?))
     
  15. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

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    thanks Wes.
     
  16. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

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    Hear the one about the guy who wakes up from an operation? he asks, "how did it go doc?"

    The doc says, "well, there's good news and there's bad news. which do you want to hear first?"

    "Tell me the bad news doc, I can take it."

    "well , we had to take your left leg off. "

    'Oh no,', anything else?"

    "well , we had to take your right leg off too!"

    "Oh no, ... what could the good news be??"



    "the guy in the next bed wants to buy your shoes!"

    -------------------------------,

    Fine, don't laugh, I still like it!
     
  17. Wes Grady

    Wes Grady New Member

    You are a sick puppy, Grover.... funny, but sick....

    Wes
    :rolleyes:
     
  18. sgusom

    sgusom New Member

    Actually the tradition is for SURGEONS and surgical specialists (Ob-Gyn) to use Mr. AFTER they become fellows in the Royal College of Surgeons (FRCS). Most would be insulted if addressed as "doctor".

    The source of the tradition is thought to that the first "surgeons" were barbers>
     

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