Gun Stores Selling Out Of Bump Stocks After Shooter Used Them In Las Vegas Massacre

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  2. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    They are a loophole to a law that nearly everyone is saying should be closed. I'm hoping that the people buying them out are just collectors who don't want to miss out on an item that might be illegal soon.
     
  3. jhp

    jhp Member

    There are several other "solutions" that do not violate the law and can provide similar results on semi-autos.
    I have even seen mods for bolt action rifles.
     
  4. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Meaningless, feel-good symbolism.

    Anyone competent in gunsmithing can turn a semi-automatic rifle into full-automatic without much trouble. Of course, that's illegal, but by definition.......drum roll please.....criminals don't obey the law.
     
  5. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    When were bump stocks approved for sale?
     
  6. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    It is true that criminals don't obey the law, but most mass shooters weren't criminals before they carried out their murders, and they obtained their guns legally. It takes the right connections to get certain things.
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

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  8. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member


    It's funny, President Obama appeared to right wing people as very much anti 2A...which he may have been but a lot of things happened positively contra the 2A during his Presidency. Especially the SCOTUS decisions.
     
  9. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member


    I agree. We should also put a lot of thought into criminalizing certain speech. Also, cops know who the bad people are, know who has illegal guns, we should probably curtail the 4th amendment and let LE/FLE search suspected homes unregulated as well.


    That way we'll really get rid of the bad people.


    You were good with stop and frisk as implemented in NYC, right? It help deter crime, wonder why they stopped it.
     
  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

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  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I don't know if ATF rubber-stamping this "goofy little doodad" would even come to the President's attention. Their take: it's a device, not a firearm. Would it? I just mentioned Pres. Obama because it happened during his time in office - not because he or his party personally approved it. I doubt he'd be called upon to do so, would he?

    J.
     
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  12. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Bump stocks aren't protected by the 2nd Amendment, and there is no evidence that NYC's stop and frisk policy deterred crime. Crime was dropping nationwide when that policy was implemented. Correlation does not equal causation.

    I don't know where you've been...your whole life, but the Supreme Court has already determined that certain types of speech aren't protected.
     
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  13. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member



    I don't think he would either, and I mentioned because it was approved while he was in office just like you do...not that he is somehow complicit in it's approval. That'd be just as dumb as blaming gas prices on the President, IMHO.
     
  14. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    So, you concede that more gun control is pointless?

    Glad we agree!
     
  15. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  16. jhp

    jhp Member

    May we explore what you really are looking for?

    The LV shooter passed the federal background check, and wait period repeatedly. His psychological profile had little indication of his instability.

    What kind of background check, wait or solution would be satisfactory in your opinion?
     
  17. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I'm saying that mass shooters aren't like your typical criminals and, when things are illegal, they are often much more difficult to obtain. This shooter bought bump stocks because automatic weapons are so difficult to obtain.

    I agree with many Republicans, Democrats, and partially with the NRA. Bump stocks should be banned or at least strictly regulated.
     
  18. jhp

    jhp Member

    I agree with many Republicans, Democrats, and partially with the NRA. Bump stocks should be banned or at least strictly regulated.[/QUOTE]

    How does that even remotely solve the problem?

    You do understand a "bump stock" is simply a tube with a protruding part, right? There are many 3D printing version available online, or simply go down to home depot and by the parts for $15.

    Fine. Ban it. Do you not think tomorrow evil minds will not have something new? Ban that. Then, the next thing. Then, the next thing.

    At what point do we look at the root cause? And, no, it is not "guns" or the 2nd Amendment. Maybe if we teach our children differently; we give them a moral compass with absolute cardinal directions.

    It is the little devils we raised in the last few generations, coming home to eat us. Perfect example just recently as the "antifa" is attacking the ACLU
     
  19. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Andrew Philip Kehoe (February 1, 1872 – May 18, 1927) was an American farmer and treasurer of his township school board, notable as a mass murderer for killing his wife and 43 other people (including 38 children), and injuring 58 people by setting off bombs in the Bath School disaster on May 18, 1927. He committed suicide near the school by detonating dynamite in his truck, causing an explosion which killed several other people and wounded more. He had earlier set off incendiary devices in his house and farm, destroying all the buildings, as well as killing two horses and other animals.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Kehoe
     
  20. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Hmm, I never heard of that, interesting. Talk about a suicide bomber!
     

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