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    another casualty of the hurricanes

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    Hurricane Nate is coming ashore as we speak. It's clipped the mouth of the Mississippi and appears headed for the Mississippi Gulf Coast. But it's only category 1, relatively weak as Hurricanes go. Rain is heavy from south Louisiana to Pensacola. There appears to be some storm surge, but nothing near as bad as hurricane Katrina did to the same stretch of coast, where places like Biloxi were pretty much wiped out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heirophant View Post
    Hurricane Nate is coming ashore as we speak. It's clipped the mouth of the Mississippi and appears headed for the Mississippi Gulf Coast. But it's only category 1, relatively weak as Hurricanes go. Rain is heavy from south Louisiana to Pensacola. There appears to be some storm surge, but nothing near as bad as hurricane Katrina did to the same stretch of coast, where places like Biloxi were pretty much wiped out.

    I've read that Narlins is yet again unprepared for flooding but has so far been spared heavy rains from Nate.

    LBJ vowed to correct the problems of the lower Mississippi River region. All these years later the problems remain.

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    Trump threatens to abandon Puerto Rico

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizmet View Post
    Trump threatens to abandon Puerto Rico

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.009bd530f734

    The negative spin is appalling. Trump did not threaten to "abandon" the relief effort. What he did say is that the responders can't stay forever. Hello!? Are we such flippin' idiots as to disagree with that obvious fact?

    Puerto Rico will be left with the mess their lefty politicians have created over decades of maladministration. So Trump should do what about that? Should he lobby to pour another 100 billion dollars into bailing them out so that they can continue on their merry, destructive way?

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    Hurricanes in... Ireland??

    Now we have Hurricane Ophelia (love the name) in the Atlantic. Instead of heading west towards the Caribbean and the US, this one is going northeast. Projected tracks take it in between the Azores and Madeira, then northwest of Spain, and toward what looks like a collision with Ireland next Monday. By then it probably won't be a hurricane, but it will still be a significant storm.

    HURRICANE OPHELIA

    Probabilities of tropical storm force winds in Ireland here:

    HURRICANE OPHELIA
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    Quote Originally Posted by decimon View Post
    The negative spin is appalling. Trump did not threaten to "abandon" the relief effort. What he did say is that the responders can't stay forever. Hello!? Are we such flippin' idiots as to disagree with that obvious fact?

    Puerto Rico will be left with the mess their lefty politicians have created over decades of maladministration. So Trump should do what about that? Should he lobby to pour another 100 billion dollars into bailing them out so that they can continue on their merry, destructive way?
    If it's so obvious then why did the moron feel the need to emphasize it? Oh yeah, btw, that town where he was flipping paper towels to the residents, yeah they still don't have water or electricity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizmet View Post
    If it's so obvious then why did the moron feel the need to emphasize it?
    Not a moron, he got a jump on the inevitable Katrina Job he knew was coming.

    Oh yeah, btw, that town where he was flipping paper towels to the residents, yeah they still don't have water or electricity.
    And whose fault is that? Trump's? He is to perform magic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by decimon View Post
    And whose fault is that? Trump's? He is to perform magic?
    Yes, it is Trump's fault because he is not providing adequate resources to effectively resolve the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizmet View Post
    Yes, it is Trump's fault because he is not providing adequate resources to effectively resolve the problem.

    You say he was to perform magic. Amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decimon View Post
    The negative spin is appalling. Trump did not threaten to "abandon" the relief effort. What he did say is that the responders can't stay forever. Hello!? Are we such flippin' idiots as to disagree with that obvious fact?

    Puerto Rico will be left with the mess their lefty politicians have created over decades of maladministration. So Trump should do what about that? Should he lobby to pour another 100 billion dollars into bailing them out so that they can continue on their merry, destructive way?
    Exactly.

    The state-owned socialist Puerto Rican electric company PREPA was a disaster area long before any hurricanes hit. It was running $350 million annual deficits, its debts far exceeded its assets and it was no longer able to fund itself by borrowing since its creditor banks had cut it off. (Damn capitalist bastards!) So given their limited revenues, the only way that they could afford to buy fuel to feed their generators was to raid their maintenance budget. So they haven't been doing any needed maintenance and were patching things band-aids and duct tape. Parts of Puerto Rico had been experiencing repeated power failures long before the hurricane arrived.

    The company says that it would be able to operate in the black, if the government hadn't voted in low-cost utility subsidies for all kinds of politically favored constituencies, without reimbursing the company for lost revenue.

    So the whole electric supply network, so reminiscent of what we see in Venezuela, collapsed like a house of cards. It needs to be totally replaced. But the utility, to say nothing of the bankrupt Puerto Rican government that owns it, have no ability to fix things, just a limitless ability to screw thing up.

    Then miraculously, the hurricane gave the Puerto Rican government the opportunity to say, 'Hey, it's not our problem, it's all Trump's fault!'

    And as this thread illustrates, political opponents here in the mainland will try to exploit the whole thing as political ammo against Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heirophant View Post
    Exactly.

    The state-owned socialist Puerto Rican electric company PREPA was a disaster area long before any hurricanes hit. It was running $350 million annual deficits, its debts far exceeded its assets and it was no longer able to fund itself by borrowing since its creditor banks had cut it off. (Damn capitalist bastards!) So given their limited revenues, the only way that they could afford to buy fuel to feed their generators was to raid their maintenance budget. So they haven't been doing any needed maintenance and were patching things band-aids and duct tape. Parts of Puerto Rico had been experiencing repeated power failures long before the hurricane arrived.

    The company says that it would be able to operate in the black, if the government hadn't voted in low-cost utility subsidies for all kinds of politically favored constituencies, without reimbursing the company for lost revenue.

    So the whole electric supply network, so reminiscent of what we see in Venezuela, collapsed like a house of cards. It needs to be totally replaced. But the utility, to say nothing of the bankrupt Puerto Rican government that owns it, have no ability to fix things, just a limitless ability to screw thing up.

    Then miraculously, the hurricane gave the Puerto Rican government the opportunity to say, 'Hey, it's not our problem, it's all Trump's fault!'

    And as this thread illustrates, political opponents here in the mainland will try to exploit the whole thing as political ammo against Trump.

    This is from May of this year: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...crisis-n756906

    It's about the sorry state of Puerto Rico's drinking water. Venezuela, indeed.

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