Maniacal Rant: "Part of this balanced breakfast!"

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussions' started by Maniac Craniac, Aug 13, 2016.

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  1. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    You've probably heard the expression hundreds of times in your life in advertisements for cold breakfast cereals. Have you ever taken a close look into what actually qualifies as a "balanced" or "complete" breakfast in those commercials? Well, let's see what we have.

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    This is the standard "balanced breakfast" that is presented in nearly every single cereal advertisement. 1 bowl of MOMMY PLEASE I WANNIT!, a tall glass of orange juice (approximately 12 ounces), a taller glass of milk (approximately 16 ounces), two pieces of toast with a square of butter on top and some fruit standing somewhere on the back of the table.

    I've reviewed dozens of commercials and invite you to take notice, yourself. No matter what the company, no matter what the nutritional value of the cereal, no matter if it is generally perceived or advertised as a healthy breakfast option or unapologetically nothing more than sugar-filled sugar crystals, this is exactly what you will see almost every single time.

    First of all- WOW!

    A "balanced" breakfast supposedly includes a bowl of grain and milk with... a side of grain and milk. Not to mention, the butter on top of the toast is tantamount to even more milk!

    The only thing outside of the bowl that is not in some way already represented inside the bowl would be the juice and the fruit. That is, the fruit juice and the fruit. In the same vein, what is outside the glass is already represented inside the glass. I've even seen some ads where (no lie!), the fruit on the table, sitting next to the orange juice, is an orange.

    Yep.

    I mean...

    Yep.

    An orange. With orange juice.

    Yep.

    Normally, some fruit juice is a good idea, but in this sugar bomb of a "balanced" breakfast, it would be a miracle if EVEN MORE SUGAR doesn't cause your metabolism to call for a strike, if not sue you for neglect and physical abuse. Oh, and then you finish it off with even more fruit. :dunce:

    Using different cereals and different fruits, my rough calculations suggest that the complete breakfast presented would be in the neighborhood of 1000 calories, nearly all of which coming from carbohydrates and hardly any coming from fat (despite all the milk!). Depending on the cereal, you might get a decent amount of protein and between the fruit, the juice and the cereal, you might even get a respectable amount of vitamins and minerals.

    Vitamins and minerals are good.

    Highly processed grains, sugar on top of sugar, lack of healthy fats, relatively low level of fiber, the redundancy of the various items consumed and an unreasonable number of calories for such an insubstantial meal are not.

    BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!!!

    Many cereal advertisements also show a cup of coffee or tea placed next to the other drinks. If you also start your day with a glass of water, as I do, we have a total 4 vessels of liquid along with some milk in the bowl before you stake your place in rush hour traffic. :Flush:

    Lastly, milk and orange juice in the same meal. I'll let you think about that one for a bit. :mischievous:
     
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  2. perrymk

    perrymk Member

    The only real option for a balanced breakfast is a burrito, because one can hold it in the middle and balance it. Maybe a breakfast sandwich can work but the oblong shape of a burrito really helps with balancing. It's sort of like balancing a checkbook by holding it in the middle.
     
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I like MC rant so much I did some micro-googling

    "The problem with associations is that the concept of a "complete breakfast" varies from country for country — many unthinkable breakfast ingredients in the West are norms elsewhere around the world. In Japan, for example, the traditional breakfast includes rice, fish, miso soup, sticky soy beans, and nori seaweed, while in Cambodia, a rice noodle soup with meat and vegetables called kuy teav is common. In Indonesia, meanwhile, fried rice is a breakfast dish and in parts of India, roti with lentil soup is common morning fare.

    The modern Western notion of breakfast is unique in its own way, varying from region to region, and has changed over time. What is accepted as an average breakfast today is unrecognizable, historically. Take Medieval Europe, where a typical breakfast for the well-off would have included alcohol and veal. "A standard breakfast for the Medieval period was bread, ale, and either cold meats or eggs for breakfast, depending on the time of year and day of the week," says food historian Caroline Yeldham. "Elizabeth I ate quite a large breakfast — chicken, mutton, rabbit, veal, and beef — usually served at 8 a.m."

    How the So-Called
     
  4. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    I think we should go back to alcohol and veal.:yumyum:

    I also would like you to imagine my emoticon, which is my smiley guy chowing down on a bowl of cereal. I know Maniac can make that happen.

    Here's the thing, the biggest disappointment of my entire career is that nutrition isn't nearly as much about eating as you might think. It's a biochemistry discussion. But we can't talk about biochemistry because nobody freakin understands biochemistry. So we say carbs are bad (no offense Maniac) or X is good, only organic, no gluten, blah blah blah. Eating in USA is a cultural lifestyle question - not a nutrition/health question.

    Here's the other thing, people suffer from lifestyle diseases more than ever (obesity, heart disease, and some cancers) HOWEVER, our lifespan is up, so that's a win. We can't be sad when someone with high cholesterol and excessive body weight dies at 65. He did great. 65 is great. 65 BEATS his ancestors. I know this thread is about 12 seconds away from devolving into a question of people being a burden on society, and I'm not going there.

    EDIT: lifespan chart http://demog.berkeley.edu/~andrew/1918/figure2.html
     
  5. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    For the first time in generations, life expectancy is expected to decrease among Americans. I just saw a report on the news yesterday, but can't find corresponding articles. There is just some stuff from last year and earlier this year. We've known this was a possibility for a while because the obesity problem has become so widespread. Obesity among children was not as much of a problem nearly 20 years ago. That Berkeley chart only goes up to 1998. Substance abuse is also a factor. A CDC report from 2015 says that life expectancy has remained unchanged for three straight years.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/increase-us-life-expectancy-stalled-cdc-report-confirms-190959290.html?ref=gs

    There was also an analysis that found that the life expectancy for white women has decreased.

    White Women Suffered Biggest Drop In Life Expectancy In The U.S.
     
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  6. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    As a kid, I ate almost that exact breakfast every morning, but I was outside, running around and getting exercise all day, so I burned it right off. Kids these days finish their bowl of sugar disguised as cereal, then retreat to their computer, X-Box, or phone to sit around all day. That's why I kick my kids out of the house when the weather is nice, even just to take the dog for a walk around the neighborhood.

    You're also dead-on (dead...get it?) about drug related deaths. Fatal OD's involving heroin, Fentanyl, and other opiates are off the charts, and show no signs of slowing down anytime soon.
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I used to drink quite a lot of fruit juice, thinking it was good for me. I got up to 200. Now I'm 160. Maybe giving up alcohol and no longer being a pork-eating infidel had something to do with that,too. (No religious reasons, I assure you.)

    I'm 73 now - and hope to be a burden on society for quite a while to come. Damn, I'm good at being a burden! Ask my kids! :smile:

    J.
     
  8. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I grew up in the 90s before everyone had a computer with Internet service and smartphones. Even though my cousins, who lived nearby, had a video game system, we all spent hours playing outside. It didn't matter if it was 100+ degrees outside. We used to ride our bikes, jump rope, play tag, use the Skip It toy, etc. Now that I think about it, as an adult, I rarely see kids outside. It's summer, and there are a lot of families in my apartment complex, but I don't see any kids running around. I'm also noticing that the fancy gym at my new apartment complex appears to always be empty.
     
  9. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Most of the life expectancy increase comes from a dramatic reduction in infant and child mortality. Even in ancient times, if one survived to adulthood, it was common to live into the late 60s and beyond. In fact, they may have been even more likely to reach advanced age due to a bit of selection bias. That is, those who could survive until the age of 30 were so much less likely to be prone to illness, injury and disability than those who could not that they were pretty much shoo-ins to make it over the long haul.
     
  10. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    Yes, you're correct.
    Earlier infant extreme life saving measures combined with extreme end of life saving measures have widened the range incredibly. To that add medicines that manage or cure previously incurable disease (type 1 diabetics, cancer, etc.). None of that has anything to do with food.
    Eating in the USA is all about culture... which is why we can sell food using marketing - which is why we have fine dining restaurants, which is why we have Food Network, which is why we have food magazines, which is why chefs are on tv (and frankly, why "chef" is even a job). Food is about feelings, relationships, celebrations, pleasure, etc.
    Nutrition in the USA is all about affluence and perception of the healthy lifestyle. Blk water anyone? Does Wholefoods accept food stamps?
     
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  11. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Stay tuned.....
     
  12. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    That's a good Maniac.
     
  13. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I've been on the Mediterranean diet since before I knew that's what my style of eating was called. I only eat whole grains. I eat very little dairy. I almost never eat red meat. Before I started down this path I was fat. I was always the fat kid. I have fond memories of my mother forcing me to eat Pop Tarts on my way out the door to go to school from my earliest days.

    I used to drink soda regularly. During my first year in the Navy I drank soda with breakfast (orange Fanta in Europe is like Pellegrino Clementine in the U.S.), lunch and dinner. Woke up thirsty in the middle of the night? Kill a can of Coca Cola. Now I have processed sugar maybe once a month and it usually comes in the form of a snickers which still pales in comparison to the sugar content of a can of soda.

    Overall I found myself looking and feeling much healthier once I "balanced" my diet by eating actual food instead of processed garbage.
     

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