Women are now getting harassed in bathrooms because of anti-transgender hysteria

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussions' started by Abner, May 20, 2016.

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Geez!

    Women are getting harassed in bathrooms because of anti-transgender hysteria - Vox

    This kind of reminds me of an unrelated issue. My wife's friend had chemo. A lot of her hair fell and eyebrows fell out, and she has to wear it short. It will not grow back. After she cut her her short, people sometimes make rude comments if she is out with her sister because people assume she is the "man, and the female with long beautiful hair is the "woman". It is not enough that she now has self esteem issues due the devastating loss of her hair, but she now has to deal with discrimination. I just wish people would stop and think for a moment.
     
  2. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    If the politicians just left things alone, this "issue" would be a non-issue. Whenever the government sticks its snout into something, the outcome is rarely positive. Now we have this;

    Girl, 8, Rescued by Mother After Being Choked Unconscious by Man in Restroom of Chicago Restaurant: Police | KTLA

    Who does that in 2016?

    My wife has short hair (very girly, it takes a friggin hour for her to style it), and when she goes out with her sister (also shorter hair), some people think they're lesbians. They both laugh it off.
     
  3. jhp

    jhp Member

    Stalls with floor to ceiling walls, and stronger locks.
     
  4. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member


    Me too! Perhaps the government can make a law that says everyone has to stop and think for a moment.


    Bet that'd work fantastic!
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

  6. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I think this is an issue where, regardless of your political affiliation, one can agree that the government tried to regulate something too closely and it did nothing but throw everyone into a ridiculous hysteria.

    The notion that rapists and molesters were lying in wait for the day that their evil plans would not longer be foiled by those wretched bathroom signs is a bit silly. Rape is illegal. Rape still happens. Someone who really wants to rape, murder or steal is going to do so even if it is illegal. If making things illegal prevented those things from happening then we would have no murders, rapes, thefts or rain barrels.

    If you are in a public restroom like me I don't actually care what you're packing. If you act weird and creepy and make me feel unsafe then we have an issue regardless of gender or sexual orientation. If you walk in, pee, wash your hands and then leave I don't see any reason to get worked up about it.
     
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    You would think that the people who make fun of the uselessness of "gun free zone" signs would know better than to take other signs seriously.
     
  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I don't make fun of them, I just ignore them.

    There was recently a case here of a deranged man who broke into a random house, stabbed the 2 occupants (one died), then stole their car, crashed it into a shopping mall, then started stabbing random people (one died), including a pregnant waitress. An off-duty sheriff's deputy stopped the carnage with one gunshot. That entire mall is a "gun free zone".

    In any case, I guarantee that every member here (at least the ones in the US) have been in stores, restaurants, movie theaters, etc., where someone was packing concealed heat, you just didn't know it because the carrier was discrete and kept it concealed.

    However, you can be damn sure that your wife would notice a man walking into the woman's shower at the gym.
     
  9. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    Yeah, your wife has the distinct advantage of being able to grow out her hair if she wants. I think your comment about who does that in 2016 has to do with discrimination? Plenty of people still discriminate, 2016 or otherwise. When my wife's friend has heard people refer to her as a "fucking dyke", she did not laugh it off. She was devastated. She lost the one thing that made her feel feminine, her hair. That is why I said that "I wish people would stop and think". This commentary is not so much directed at this bathroom bill. My feeling is that if you have a problem with a certain kind of person, at least have the decency to keep it to yourself. and shut the fuck up!
     
  10. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    Am I the only one who thinks our society was much more tolerant before we started being taught how to be tolerant?
     
  11. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Once again, cookderosa swoops in and gives us a voice of reason. You're certainly not the only one who has made this exact observation. However, you just might be the creator of the best line anyone has come up with to express it. :)
     
  12. Davewill

    Davewill Member

    No, people were just being blind to it... Or just laughing along with the jokes and slurs.
     
  13. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    That's about sums it up.
     
  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Exactly this. Those on the cultural left are correct that this is a real problem, but their solution of toleration for different groups keeps the mentality at the root of the problem: that of looking at people in terms of groups rather than as individuals.
     
  15. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I think the bathroom issue and gun free zones are an excellent comparison. Personally, I don't care what you're "packing" in either case. If it's truly concealed then I will never know. And if you try to hurt me, or my family, with it no sign is going to stop you.
     
  16. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I've been a black woman for three decades. I haven't noticed a difference in tolerance regarding race. However, when it comes to sexual orientation, I have seen society become more tolerant. I could remember people being less tolerant just over 10 years ago. When the intolerant start to realize that they are a minority and their numbers are shrinking, they start to push back. Being loud makes their numbers seem higher.
     
  17. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member

    Does this feeling extend to pedophiles, rapists, molesters, perverts, serial killers, etc., or is it specifically relating to gender preference/identification?
     
  18. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    I agree with you on the race thing. I remember when President Obama first took office. Now, I have worked in various office settings for a long time now. There always seems to be a guy in the office who likes to tell off color race jokes. One particular guy, really had a field day with the President. Now, I am not a joke teller. But such jokes would include having plenty of watermelon at the White House now that a black President was in office, and different variations like that. Oh! But he claims he is not a racist! Bullocks! Then why do his supposed jokes always seem to involve race somehow? Many now claim that if you have a distaste for such jokes, you are over sensitive. In some cases, there are some people who can be over sensitive, but not in all cases. I see people for who they are.
     
  19. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Obviously, it relates to thing like race and gender preference/identification. Why would you assume I was referring to rapists, pedophiles, molesters, perverts, serial killers, killer clowns from outer space, etc.? What do those groups of people/aliens have to do with transgender people?
     
  20. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I was in the HOTS program and don't recall anything "suspicious." Because I went to a school with a lot of impoverished students from dysfunctional families, if they mean that HOTS teaches them to challenge their parents' illegal and poverty-perpetuating behaviors, then I don't see anything wrong with it. In reality, I don't remember anything that taught students to challenge parents' authority. If I was secretly brainwashed, then I'm glad I was because I came out much better than my mother.
     

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