Fake University

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  2. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member

    Oh no, do you mean I have to send my PhD back to them?
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised three or four newbies haven't started threads asking about others' experiences there.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    So, it's Fast and Furious University? :jester:
     
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  5. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    From the article: ... officials say all (1,076 -J) of them knew they were committing fraud...
    “They were 100 percent fully aware,” said Alvin Phillips, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security. “All purported students are recorded at some point or another fully going along with the pay-to-stay scheme.”


    Does this seem in any way unusual to you? It doesn't, to me:

    (1) Knowingly participate in a fraud
    (2) Get caught
    (3) Play the victim card.

    J.
     
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  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes. Didn't you get the email? Only the one from Northern New Jersey U. They say you can keep all your other Doctorates - the valid ones (4 of them, IIRC) ... at least for now. :smile:

    J.
     
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  8. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I just want one of those t-shirts.

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  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This isn't as clear-cut against the students as one might think. The government went a very long way to sting them. I'm not an attorney, nor do I claim any special legal knowledge. But this has more than a wisp of "sting" to it. The "school" was listed on DHS's website. The ACCSC accredited it. Students were told they were getting life experience credit.

    From an objective observation position, one might conclude that these people should've known they were being duped. But a walk in their shoes might bring about a more nuanced perspective.

    I'd rather they go after visa mills, not individuals who may or may not have been duped.
     
  10. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member

    You must be thinking of someone else, Johann. I hold a BA, two masters, and two doctorates--a professional doctorate and a research doctorate (PhD). No aspirations for additional sheepskins.
     
  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Just joking, RAM. :jester: No disrespect intended, and sorry about miscounting your doctorates. I was thinking (erroneously) that you had two of each kind (professional and research). I tried to find your old sig. line where you listed those details, but I was in too much of a hurry.

    We both know you'd never have anything to do with bogus schools or degrees. I'll try for a better grade of joke, next time - I promise.

    J.
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  13. TomE

    TomE New Member

    Couldn't they have at least come up with a less conspicuous name for the "university"? The name is almost on par with Akeem Joffer's "University of the United States"

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  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    How is it any worse than the name of this place?

    University of Southern California

    Interestingly, there is a "United States University". I admit it sounds mickey mouse (as Levicoff puts it); in fact I was surprised to see they're WASC accredited, as I figured they were probably ACICS accredited or something. But in retrospect it's probably a great name: imagine how much Google love they get with a name like that!
     
  15. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    There are still more outrageously-named schools. See below!

    From a 1973 Popular Mechanics ad:

    "NONRESIDENTIAL DEGREES! HONORARY DEGREES! Nationwide faculty. Catalog: $3.00. United States University of America. (Emphasis mine - J.)
    Box 4552-PM, Washington DC, 20017."

    It's here: https://books.google.ca/books?id=MNQDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA198&lpg=PA198&dq=Popular+mechanics+%3D+%22United+STates+University+of+America%22&source=bl&ots=eNJPX3V2GA&sig=ZojEq4alFXR3Qf6-mVLCF6VsME8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjluP2v9ODQAhVRwmMKHVp2C3kQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=Popular%20mechanics%20%3D%20%22United%20STates%20University%20of%20America%22&f=false

    Years ago, a Romanian self-proclaimed "King of the Gypsies" (there were several rival kings over the years) displayed a Doctorate from this "United States University of America," which was said to be located in Florida or Washington. I believe the "school" is long-gone, but still on some State "lists."

    J.
     
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  17. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    One thing (or two) United States University of America had going for it was
    Address: P O Box 1776, Washington DC
    Phone: (800) USA-1776
     
  18. TomE

    TomE New Member

    Yeah, that was the point I was making. It seemed like it would sound too familiar and people who hadn't ever heard of it would probably be more likely to look it up (and realize it was a scam) as opposed to if there would have been a more obscure name.
     
  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Right. Let's make it great again! :smile:

    J.
     

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