Petition to Allow Guns at Republican National Convention at Nearly 25,000 Signatures

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Don't get me wrong, I am not against guns but is this a good idea?

    Petition to Allow Guns at Republican National Convention at Nearly 25,000 Signatures

    From the article:

    "Quicken Loans Arena has prohibited firearms at this year's event in July 2016, citing its right to disallow guns on private property".

    "This year's convention is expected to be especially combative".

    "Couple that with the numerous accounts of violence at Trump rallies, and you're left with a heated situation that probably doesn't need firearms added into the mix".

    "According to newsnet5.com, the ultimate decision on whether firearms will be allowed into Quicken Loans Arena may not rest with the venue's management or the RNC, but with the Secret Service. The agency told the news station that Title 18 United States Code Sections 3056 and 1752 gives them "authority to preclude firearms from entering sites visited by our protectees, including those located in open-carry states."

    What could possibly go wrong?
     
  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  3. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Are any of the petitioners delegates or media folk?
     
  4. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Private property, the owners can specify whatever restrictions that they want.

    However, the "violence at Trump rallies" is silly, because all the problems were started by liberal agitators, Sanders supporters, and Black Lives Matter people. The same folks who insist that they're all about diversity and inclusion.
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    This would seem to be the end of that notion.
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I thought liberal rules around carrying firearms in public places was a good idea? I can't imagine why the GOP would want to restrict gun carry at the convention. If it's a good idea for college students and elementary school teachers, why not convention-goers?
     
  7. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  8. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Guns are not the problems, people are the problems. Since so many physical violent protesters are GOP debate, I think they would pose threats to the candidates. Since they Bernie and Hillary supporters dead threats on Trump. I think it is a good idea not to approval the law; besides, it is private property. If its approval, then all debate conventions should allow to carry guns. If they want to be fair, it has to work both ways.
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Oh, okay. So it's liberals who are carrying the heat! Got it. Thank goodness cooler heads on the GOP side will prevail and prevent all that liberal gun violence. I'm glad to see they're in favor of gun restrictions after all. It's a tough job, but someone has to do it.
     
  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Just because it's a leftist position to scale back the individual right to own a firearm hardly means that no one on the left every picked up a gun in anger. And you know that.
     
  11. Davewill

    Davewill Member

    What a bunch of horse pucky. It is conservative Republicans that are petitioning to carry, and it will be the same folks who would be carrying on the convention floor. None of this is about protesters outside unless one of these open carry fanatics decides to go outside and use their gun.
     
  12. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Thousands sign satirical petition to allow guns at Republican Convention

    Hmm, I thought something sounded strange. I mean, what good would a petition do when the laws are so clear?

    Thousands sign satirical petition to allow guns at Republican Convention - CNET

    "The petition on Change.org has already attracted the signatures of more than 33,000 people who seem to believe that making the arena a gun-free zone violates their Second Amendment rights".

    "Except that the petition is surely fine satirical commentary. A blog called Hyperationalist has claimed responsibility".

    "He or she writes: "It just doesn't seem right that thousands of patriotic Republican good guys should be left totally unprotected by whatever bad guys might wish to do them harm. I mean forgodsake people, ISIS could show up to take out everybody in and around that building and they'd be sitting ducks. Sitting ducks, I tell you! There might even be a bad egg or two among the delegates."

    "It's unclear how many people were fooled into supporting this ruse and how many signed the petition because they enjoyed the humorous intent. It's evident, though, that some of the more rightward-inclined took it for real".


    Those rascals! :smile: They got quite a few signatures in a relatively short time tough. Be afraid! Be VERY afraid!!!!!
     
  13. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

  14. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    Five guys tried to rob a taco stand in South Central LA (very bad area) the other night. One of the employees shot a robber in the other guys ran away. The cops said it was self defense.
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Agreed, Bruce, about gun owners not being the problem that left-liberals think they are.

    Similarly, there are something like a billion Muslims. If it was really a religion dedicated to killing infidels, most of them are awfully bad at it. (This bit is an aside, not in response to anything Bruce said.)
     
  16. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Considering that far, far, more people are killed every year by drunk driving and other booze-related causes than by firearms, I'm wondering if these same NIMBY's would be so vociferous against a liquor store opening in the same spot?
     
  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I wouldn't actually dismiss the possibility. Northern Virginia is pretty authoritarian overall, and one can expect support for just about any government action here so long as the word "safety" prominently appears as one of the selling points.
     
  18. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    People who live in nice neighborhoods typically are against liquor stores being near them because of the customers they aytract. Some of them don't even want 24-hour Walmarts near them.

    Texas has pretty restrictive operating hours for liquor stores because of the influence of the Baptists. We even have some dry counties. We still have one of the highest rates of alcohol-related accidents and fatalities. However, Texas is against checkpoints and refuses to change the state constitution to make them legal.
     
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  19. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin
     
  20. major56

    major56 Active Member

    And regrettably ... simply proffering of such ideology too often sells with many …
     

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