Rise of the Hyper Educated Poor

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  1. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Full story:
    The Rise of the Hyper Educated Poor*|*Julia Meszaros
     
  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    The author makes the mistake of assuming that the only landing spot for a PhD is in academia.
     
  3. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    :dunno: Maybe he's a jerk. No number of degrees will balance that off. :dunno:
     
  5. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    LOL - Yeaa, I wondered about that too.
     
  6. japhy4529

    japhy4529 House Bassist

    Haha! Great point. All too often we forget the other qualities/qualifications a person may or may not have which helps to determine if their employable. If Applicant A has 25 degrees but is an a-hole or has obviously bad hygiene practices and Applicant B has only one degree (bachelors) but is not an a-hole and doesn't smell, then I would believe Applicant B would hold an obvious advantage!

    *Disclaimer - I'm not claiming that Aric W. Hall represents Applicant A in anyway other than holding multiple degrees.
     
  7. major56

    major56 Active Member

    It’s conceivable IMO; that Mr. Hall holds just way too many degrees … such a surplus of credentialing would seem to be so far outside the conventional norm for most of us in understanding a valid use of and/or reasoning for (i.e., bizarre). Or maybe he’s considered to be a professional threat by others (?). :shrug:
     
  8. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    In his case, I can imagine several factors.

    1) A quick Google search is going to reach his website. His website looks 10+ years outdated, and several "red flags" are planted all over it.

    2) If he actually lists all of these degrees on his resume, an initial screener would probably seriously question his decision to earn so many degrees.

    3) If he only lists relevant degrees, the Google search will certainly reveal the others, and if a transcript is requested for Tyler Junior College, it would show many, many degrees.

    4) A lack of work experience would seriously hurt his candidacy for jobs, especially when one considers an MBA, etc. An MBA only really helps a person who either has significant experience or who is attending a residential program and can network and complete an internship or two. Working on a DL PhD without significant experience is very, very questionable. If he were pursuing a residential (ideally funded) program for an academic career, then he might be ok, but having at least a few years of significant experience (pre-MBA or immediately post-MBA) would be desirable.


    Lastly, personality and other interpersonal factors could be significant. I obviously can't comment on him specifically, but there is always the possibility of non-academic factors affecting the job search. Companies very, very often look as much for a good fit with organizational culture as they do for hard skills and educational credentials.
     
  9. edowave

    edowave Active Member

    It's not the number of degrees, it's having the "right" degrees also. One BS in Electrical Engineering will make you much more employable than 10 degrees in leadership, business, history, etc.

    With all those degrees I'm surprised that guy isn't a member here. He'd fit right in.
     
  10. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Somebody needs to email him and invite him here! LOL
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    My first thought was that maybe he IS here, just anonymously. But then I thought that anyone who'd create such a gaudy website with all those degrees would never be anonymous. Also, my latest thought on why he can't get hired . . . THAT HAIRCUT! That thing is frightening!
     
  12. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    This sounds like armchair psychology, but I can tell he's not mentally stable just by looking that the number and types of degrees. Why does someone need multiple associates degrees in criminal justice and business administration? If you do some further digging, you'll find court documents detailing his ridiculous lawsuits against Tyler Junior College and the Air Force. There is an old thread about him on here where someone found out he was still living with his parents when he filed one of those lawsuits.
     
  13. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    This is from his Linkedin page:

    "I have 15 years experience in fighting organized crime - police, military, corporate, etc. - and therefore cannot be employed. I am seeking an initial commission as a Peace Officer."

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/arichall
     
  14. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    There you have it right there. He's been fighting the police, but wants to become commissioned via a police department. That's the only way he can do it. I wonder if he's having trouble passing the MMPI when applying. I wonder how he passed it to even get into the police academy in the first place. Maybe he wasn't always this bad.
     
  15. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    good point. Though honestly, not all fields support the extra ed as well as academia.
     

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