[Video] Fake Sign Language Interpreter at Mandela Memorial

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  1. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Have you guys heard this story yet? It's sending shockwaves throughout my professional community. I recieved a request today to perform a video analysis and do an on-air interview for major national network regarding complaints against the shoddy sign language interpretation provided during the Nelson Mandela memorial. I declined the request since my schedule didn't allow for it, but I can provide you a brief analysis here. The man was absolutely not doing sign language. It might as well have been the Macarena because he is just making random stuff up and repeating it over and over. I tried to watch with an open mind- hey, maybe he just has a unique style, maybe he's using the wrong sign language, maybe he is underqualified but at least trying. NOPE! The "interpreter" isn't even playing a game of charades here- at least not literally.

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NpPvGP_GUXs&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNpPvGP_GUXs

    I've seen my fair share of unqualified interpreters, and seen plenty of billing for services fraud, but THIS GUY is the most shockingly brazen scruple-free character I have ever seen. At such a high profile event. The internet will murder him; hopefully not literally.
     
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  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Embedded for your convenience

    [video=youtube;NpPvGP_GUXs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpPvGP_GUXs[/video]
     
  3. BlueMason

    BlueMason Audaces fortuna juvat

    It begs the question - who hired him and what due diligence did they do? One would think that given the publicity surrounding the event, one would have hired a known interpreter, or at least one who has an outstanding resume...
     
  4. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Forgive me for misspelling Mandela twice. For some odd reason "Mandella" WAS in my phone's autocorrect library, but has now been vanquished.

    Here's a CNN story Interpreter at Mandela memorial a fake, group says - CNN.com

    One big red flag for me, which would have been evident well before the day began, is that there was only one person assigned to interpret the whole memorial. For long events, and big events, interpreters usually work in teams. I'd go so far as to say that it would be unethical to have a sole interpreter in that situation.

    Other articles I've read mention that he has done some work for the SA government on occasion for at least the past year. I'm pretty floored, to be honest. Even if he started as a complete fraud, he could have at least TRIED to learn a LITTLE real sign language during the year.

    In case you are wondering, no, it's not surprising to me that he did this for a year and didn't get caught. I've had plenty of events where I was paid to interpret but had no audience for the language I was interpreting into. Often times the target community for interpretation is never informed that accommodations will be provided in their language. Or they just don't care to come. Or, some bureaucratic inefficiency requires "access" or "accommodations" for events that are by exclusive invitation and it is known beforehand that nobody invited uses the language for which the interpreter was hired.
     
  5. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Oh. "Mandella" must have been in the autocorrect library because I accidentally clicked to add it in after I misspelled it the first time. I suck. Really.
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

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  7. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    Been reading about this. The guy has surfaced, claiming he has schizophrenia and was having a schizophrenic episode where he saw angels. Supposedly he has a history and was hospitalized with schizophrenic behavior for some time.

    There was another article saying that the company he worked for has vanished entirely, and a third article says it may not have existed at all. Apparently the guy has been hired on multiple occasions, and they've gotten complaints.

    But the really interesting question is, given all the heads of state, how was this guy vetted by security?
     
  8. BlueMason

    BlueMason Audaces fortuna juvat

    Thanks for pointing that out to me.
     
  9. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I have to say that schizophrenia didn't even cross my mind. I'm skeptical, but if this is true then it doesn't change how wrong the situation is. Your questions need to be answered regardless. Also, the "interpreter" himself is the one claiming to be schizophrenic which leads us to three ways to understand the situation:

    1) He's lying.

    2) He knows of his own schizophrenia.

    3) He mistakenly believes that he is schizophrenic.

    1 is clearly possible. 2 leads to an odd contradiction in that his mind is ordered enough for him to notice how disordered it is. It also means he knew himself to be a liability and went ahead anyway. 3 is also really, really odd. How do you diagnose THAT situation, which is an obvious sign of some form of mental illness even if not schizophrenia?
     
  10. jhp

    jhp Member

    It is not unusual for someone with a mental disorder to be aware of their malady.

    It does not bother me if he is or is not mentally disturbed. The biggest concern for me is what others pointed out - vetting, or lack thereof.
     
  11. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    When people with schizophrenia are on their medication, their minds are in order as long as severe brain damage has not set in. This does not mean that schizophrenics who are taking their medication as prescribed will never have hallucinations or delusions.
     
  12. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    I agree! Perhaps he slept at a Holiday Inn? He fooled me but of course the only sign language I know involves extension of the hand's third digit.
     
  13. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I will guess that he is lying.

    In addition, to fit this firmly into a DegreeInfo topic, I will guess that any degree he claims is fake.
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Right. It gets worse and worse:

    (1) He is believed to have had a violent past - and claims previous violent acts were schizophrenia-related.
    (2) No authority will (yet) own up to having given him security clearance.
    (3) Yes, Maniac - he claims to have studied signing at a British University that does not exist. (Sigh.)

    Mandela memorial fake sign language interpreter reportedly faced murder charge a decade ago
     
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  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Oops - sorry - that was Bill Huffman who suggested that any degree the fake-signer might claim would likely be fake. My apologies to Bill and to Maniac for my quotation error. And Bill, you were certainly right.

    Johann
     
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  16. Chip

    Chip Administrator

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