NY Indian Launching Ad Campaign Against Redskins

NY tribe launching radio ad against Redskins

Will the insane descent into the abyss of political correctness ever end?

 

Indeed it does, MC! I'm highly offended when others are offended at the things that offend me. :smile:

 

It's not "political correctness," the use of a falsehood instead of the truth in order to avoid offending someone. The term is deemed by many to be racist. It's different.

Here's one litmus test: Would you take a new team just starting out today and give them that name?

Here's another: what do Native Americans have to say? (And no, not just one or two anecdotes, nor owner Dan Snyder's fake one.)

It's okay--and it's not bending to political pressures--to realize one day that something that was acceptable for, well, forever, isn't acceptable anymore. Really, it's okay. It's called "progress." And hanging on to it after that enlightenment isn't "tradition."

I really don't care if the Washington NFL team changes its name. Society will just leave it behind. Enlightened attitudes will come very late in such a case, and the brand will be irreparably harmed. Too bad, but it will all work out in the end.

 

There is no Constitutional right not to be offended.

 

What does anyone think about the name Cleveland Indians?

 

The term "Indian" doesn't have the same negative connotation that the term "Redskin" does.

 

There isn't, IMHO, a legal means by which the Washington NFL team will be forced to abandon its nickname. At least, not successfully. But I expect market/societal forces to accomplish it over time.

 

The Cleveland baseball team has been under assault by various parties for its nickname and for its "Chief Wahoo" caricature.

Also, note that Stanford University abandoned the "Indians" as a nickname many years ago.

 

Well yippie-yi-yo-ki-yay for them ...

 

One of our local high schools kept the Indians as their name. The school leadership met with the local tribes (there are 81 different tribes in my area) and they removed some offensive materials from the logo (i.e. the hatchet was replaced by an actual NA artificat local to this area, etc) and the school does not have a mascot anymore. The Indian is a symbol for the school and the Spokane Tribes agreed that this was a good use, they liked being a symbol as opposed to a "mascot".

I have, however, noticed that NA imagery is good to go for selling casino shit and getting Boomer's to drop their retirement funds into the Sex in the City slot machines. So it seems that as long as you use your own heritage in a racist way to make money (rappers using the "n" word, everyone is a drunk Irishman on St. Paddies Day, etc) then it's all good.

 

Perhaps, for example, the Dallas ‘Cowboys’, the Houston “Texans” and don’t forget the Minnesota ‘Vikings’, Saint Louis ‘Rams’ /’Cardinals’ (PETA (?)) and/or New Orleans ‘Saints’ (atheists /agnostics, Muslims (?)) might too consider a brand name change in that its likely Cowboy, Texan, Viking, Rams /Cardinals, Saints etc. are too deemed offensive by some (?). And if not quite there yet … just allow some time and suggestion of the idea by advocate group/s. And as a further initiative … maybe the Dallas, Houston and even Minnesota and Saint Louis names as well should go via market /societal demands amid an array of external and self-serving agendas (?).

 

Convenient, duplicitous and ironic isn’t it Cory …

 

I like it Ted … always have.

 

Yeah, I don't see many liberal minded people shedding a tear over Notre Dame's drunken, pugnacious, wearin'-of-the-green leprechaun puttin' his dukes up logo they call the fightin Irish. Pretty soon with all this major attention spent on micro aggressions I think we'll see people asking about discrimination by way of omission As in...Why are Asians not represented in any sport mascot? Why not the San Francisco Samurai? Are you saying Asians lack any of the qualities like bravery, strength or fortitude that teams promote in their mascots. And what about SE Asia Indians, Philipinos or Indonesians? We truely have a long way to go to become an inclusive society *shakes head in that condescending faux pity sympathetic way that many of the right kind of white people do in cases like these*

Anyone remember this awesomeness? - Fighting Whites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Once again Cory you point out the hypocrisy that resurfaces from those whose deceptive advocating is merely to bolster their own convenient agendas.

 

Expressing chagrin over the lack of reciprocity in these matters shows a disdain for the unequal nature of the situation. The present-day situation has a powerful and relevant historical context that provides significant--and differing--meanings in these things.

 

I wouldn't call it chagrin. I'm just noticing things, that is all.

Questions:

1. How far back can/do we go?
2. How far into the future is it projected to last?

Also, do you believe that the only way to make something equal is to make something else unequal?