CPU grad testifies at WM3 trial

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  1. rabrou

    rabrou New Member

    Testimony of Dale Griffis:

    "I consult to criminal justice educators, mental health people, in the area of nontraditional groups. I have been married for 35 years and have 3 adult children. Prior to becoming a consultant, I worked for 26 years in the Tiffin, Ohio Police Department at which time I was retired as a captain. (TR 2528) 1 worked at the L.A. Police Department for 2 weeks, San Francisco Police Department for 2 weeks, and I worked with other agencies in the area of cults, occult and nontraditional groups. I graduated from high school, have an associate degree in police science, a bachelor's degree in psychology, master's degree in criminal justice and dissertation in criminal justice. The master's degree in criminal justice and where I did my dissertation, was from Columbia Pacific University in San Rafael, California which is a school without walls. Much of my work was by correspondence. I started my course work at Columbia Pacific University in 1980. My course work had some relationship to nontraditional group activity. My master's work was working in intelligence work with small agencies and my doctoral dissertation was on mind control cults and the effects on the objectives of law enforcement. (TR 2529) Nontraditional groups are. [sic] I taught people to look at the group activities from a malevolent side. Everybody has got the right to believe what they wish. I teach them to look at these groups for what they are, whether it be a cult or an occult group or a gang member or a type of cult that has malevolent tendencies. Malevolent tendencies are bad because they break laws. In 1968, when we started seeing some of these groups that were cause orientated on the campuses raising some havoc. After developing this interest, I contacted schools with walls to try to pursue that study. I was going through those type of schools until 1976. I was going through Terra Technical College in Fremont, Ohio, and then I graduated with a degree in psychology from Heidelburg College. I ran into a case in 1976 which threw me for a loop. I tried to get the lateral transfers and realized that wouldn't work. (TR 2530) Then, I went to schools with walls to get additional help. Those schools with walls, did not offer the type of studies in this nontraditional group activity. I started in the late 1960's working cause orientated groups that have a purpose or interest they are out there to further. The Students United for Freedom and Peace are things we commonly saw on campus in the 1960's. I come from a small town in Ohio. We started hearing some cases involving cults. I started checking on that. I just couldn't believe why people would leave town and give up their money. I studied it and did anything that I could get a hold of . (TR 2531) As a result of the interests that I developed, I was in Los Angeles and San Francisco to further that interest. I tried to be proselytized by these groups, to see how they worked, see what their sales pitch was. I went to the American Church of Satan but I was not a member. I went to where they held their meetings and looked at how their rooms were set up. I went to their book stores. At that time I didn't know what a book of shadows was. Learned from the street what the different groups was. I also interviewed people involved in this activity. Over the years, when I was doing my dissertation. That is where I attended ISP or independent study project. Part of my dissertation was the results of that review. I talked to 500 of them. At the present time, I receive about 65 calls a week in regard to nontraditional groups."

    "I went to school at Columbia Pacific University. That is not a mail-order college where you can send in information and get a degree. (TR 2533) I graduated from high school in 1955. I went to college in 1956 at Delbert College associated with Western Missouri but I did not get a degree. I got a technical degree from a community college in 1975. I got an associate degree in police science in which I had to go to classes and take tests. I got a report card or grades and had a transcript. I later went to a 4 year college. (TR 2534) I was going to a 4 year college and working at the Tiffin Police Department at the same time. I was a full time police officer enrolled as a full time college student in two different colleges. I [sic] two degrees. One in a technical college and one a four year degree, a B.A. Magna Cum Laude, 1976. I had to go to classes, had professors, had to take tests. (TR 2535) I got grades and had a transcript. When I went to this mail-order college, Columbia Pacific University, I did not take classes. I took predominantly written tests with objective questions. I was enrolled at Columbia Pacific University in California, I lived in Tiffin, Ohio. I started that school in 1980. It took me 3 years without taking classes to complete a combined master/doctoral program. (TR 2536) I was at the campus a couple of times, but I did not attend classes. They don't have classes at this campus. Other schools such as Harvard, Stanford, Ohio State, Michigan State do not offer classes that deal with the psychology of nontraditional groups. In 1980 I couldn't go to Stanford or Michigan State and take a class on the psychology of nontraditional groups and still work full time as a police officer. At other schools I had to go to class to get a degree there. (TR 2537) I went.to Bowling Green, Toledo University, Marion campus Ohio State, the campus at Bowling Green, Ohio State, Ohio University, but I could not even get a weekend program or a full time program in the area I wanted. I was in L.A. and San Francisco for 2 weeks. Of the 80% that relate to satanism, some of those are just suspicions. My consulting work with police departments and mental health educators is my full-time job. (TR 2538) I also give lectures. I do not derive all my living from going around spreading satanic panic. I have testified in a couple hundred criminal trials but only 1 as an expert in satanic activities in Michigan."


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    This is part of the tragic case of the three little boys murdered on May 5th, 1993 in West Memphis, Arkansas, and the ensuing witch-hunt that put three boys in prison (one on death row) for crimes that in all likelihood they did not commit.

    -Rab
     
  2. Kane

    Kane New Member

    AMAZING

    And when this jerk was describing his credentials, no one from the defence brought to light CPU's lack of recognized accreditation
    or regulation?
     
  3. Kane

    Kane New Member

    More Amazing

    Dork wad mentions the "American Church of Satan." First it is the called the "Church of Satan" No "American" in it.

    Second, The Church of Satan itself does not own any bookstores though some of their members may.

    Third, "The Book of Shadows" is more of a witches diary and book of witchcraft then anything. The books respected by the COS are "The Satanic Bible," "The Satanic Rituals," "The Satanic Witch," and the "Devils Notebook" written by COS founder Anton Szandor Lavey.

    Fourth, He probably could not into Michigan State because he was an idiot.

    These so called experts with their unaccredited degrees. SHEESH!!!!!
     
  4. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I think one of the most worthwhile habits I've developed from being involved with DL issues is actually checking the credentials of the "experts" I have to deal with.

    If I never read a copy of Bears' Guide, I probably wouldn't know that my primary care physician graduated medical school from Tufts University, my children's pediatrician from the University of Pittsburgh, my wife's OB from UMass Medical School, and my optometrist from Ohio State.


    Bruce
     
  5. David

    David New Member

    In the trial of the three boys, the defense did bring up the 'experts' credentials, including the CPU degree.
    There is a video on the case, called, I believe, "Paradise Lost: The Robin Hood Hills Murder." There is also a follow-up video about further developments after the trial and convictions.

    This is an extremely disturbing case where much questionable evidence was allowed in, i.e. that simply listening to heavy metal and having heavy metal T-shirts are signs of Satanic worship.
     

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