Zimmerman medical report and Martin autopsy results

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  1. jam937

    jam937 New Member

    Some information is being reported regarding the case.

    A medical report by Zimmerman's family doctor from the day after the altercation has been released. George Zimmerman had a closed-fracture of his nose, two black eyes, two lacerations on the back of his head and bruising to his lip and cheek. None of the injuries required hospital care or stitches and he did not have a concussion.

    The autopsy of Trayvon Martin showed the gunshot wound, injuries to his knuckles, his hands were bloody and he had broken skin on his hands.

    George Zimmerman Medical Report Sheds Light on Injuries After Trayvon Martin Shooting - ABC News
     
  2. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    **crickets**


    DOES NOT FIT THE NARRATIVE
     
  3. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Got to love when some facts come out.
     
  4. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Expect a bombastic press conference tomorrow (given "breaking news status" by the mainstream media) by Al Sharpton and/or Jesse Jackson and/or the New Black Panther Party to distract attention from this.

    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence" - John Adams
     
  5. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Actually, it fits the narrative quite well. Armed man stalks unarmed kid. Unarmed kid defends himself and is shot for his troubles. How dare he wear a hoodie?!
     
  6. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    Geez Maniac... I say this as someone who rushed to judgment without any facts in the beginning (of which I recanted) but the physical evidence and circumstantial evidence both point strongly towards Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense. This is looking more and more like an open and shut, legit shooting.

    Here’s a question I can’t seem to get answered. If Martin felt so threatened by Zimmerman, how come he didn’t call 911 himself? My speculation is that he thought he could take Zimmerman and may have been “angry” about being followed but I doubt he felt “threatened”…but that’s speculation. The “facts” are pretty conclusive without speculation.

    Here’s another question. What is the deal with all of the “profiling” language? Zimmerman is not in law enforcement, is not a representative of the government and was not acting under color of any lawful authority. So I’m not getting this “profiling” garbage that gets slung around in the press. I think they’re trying to use this as a soft way of implying racism and it’s pretty crappy. Regardless of whether he followed Martin because he was a young black male or not does not have any bearing upon Martin placing Zimmerman into a situation to where he feared for his life under aggravated assault…but “thought” policing Zimmerman’s motivation is a scary thing not only because it is impossible for anyone to know for sure but primarily because Zimmerman has every legal right in the world to be a racist if he wants to be and would STILL maintain the legal rights and responsibilities of any other citizen. Unless they can show that Zimmerman baited Martin into this conduct with malice aforethought AND tie it to being a hate crime, there's no reason for all of this other than more race baiting. It's irresponsible language, kind of like CNN yesterday calling Zimmerman a "white Hispanic" when reporting on the story. I don't know of many Hispanics who refer to themselves as "white Hispanic".
     
  7. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Really? To me it looks more and more convoluted as time goes on and I get even more annoyed with each new detail released that every last person in the country thinks that he or she knows exactly what happened.

    I also don't know of Black people who call themselves African American. Nobody uses terms like that outside of checkbox forms and news reports. In fact, who even uses the word "Hispanic?" Certainly no Latino or Latin American whom I have ever met :pat:
     
  8. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Zimmerman has a white father and a Hispanic mother.
     
  9. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    so then he's Whispanic. :D

    It still should have no bearing on the case...neither should the "profiling" language.

    I know a lot of 1/2 white 1/2 Hispanic (my wife and her sisters for example) and generally they refer to themselves simply as "Hispanic". And yes they use the term "Hispanic" instead of Mexican because they are U.S. born and view "Hispanic" as an ethnic identity and "Mexican" as nationality. Maybe they are the exception or maybe we just do it different in Texas.
     
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  10. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Read the first paragraph. You're certainly acting like the people who supposedly "annoy" you that you describe in the second paragraph.
     
  11. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Yes. That was the point of the first post.
     
  12. jam937

    jam937 New Member

  13. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    So too is doctoring 911 recordings to imply racism, but that didn't stop NBC News from doing it (and all mention of that on mainstream media websites has been sent down the memory hole).

    The liberal media will keep pressing the attack until Zimmerman is either killed by some kook they whipped into a frenzy, or is sentenced to life in a federal prison.
     
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  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Someone said that according to the autopsy the kid was at "medium" range from the gun when shot. If Zimmerman was shooting because he was afraid of being beaten to death by a kid almost half his size that was in the process of physically beating him then wouldn't that mean he should have been at close range?

    The real point is that I still don't think we have enough information to really conclude what the actual story is.
     
  15. jam937

    jam937 New Member

    "The autopsy says the fatal shot was fired from no more than 18 inches away."
    The Associated Press: Trayvon Martin shot at no more than 18 inches away

    Of course "no more than 18 inches" could be 1-18 inches for all we know. Where did you get medium range? Which autopsy are you citing? Who is "someone?" Please post a link.

    Where did you get that Martin weighed half as much as Zimmerman? Please post a link.
     
  16. jam937

    jam937 New Member

    So now we know that Martin was under the influence at the time of the altercation.

    Martin was throwing punches 'MMA (mixed martial arts) style.
     
  17. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    The MSM reported the story they wanted it to be instead of the story it was. Sad. Like I have mentioned, I will never trust another word out of the MSM even if it reinforces some already held belief that I had. I question everything that they say they are and what they say they stand for.

    @MC = Wow, I mean really? Wow.
     
  18. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    ......
    Huh?
     
  19. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    I am not "pulling" for either side in this case. Lets hope this case, along with thousands of other violent crime cases see justice done at the end based on the facts and not our hopes and fears.
     
  20. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    There's not going to be any winners in this case, but it has exposed exactly how low the American media has sunk in recent years. Inflammatory headlines/lead-ins, doctored 911 recordings, ridiculously biased coverage....the American media has officially become The Jerry Springer Show.
     

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