Which of these computers is better?

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    ***HP Intel Pentium with G630 Processor - 4GB memory - 1TB hard drive (slim line PC)****

    or

    ***HP AMD dual cone E-450 Processor All in one computer - model #QW680AA#ABA, 4GB memory, 1TB hard drive###

    Thanks!

    Abner :smile:
     
  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I don't know the answer but everytime I've asked such a question I get a question in return...
    "What are you going to use it for?" For my purposes I'd say that there's not significant difference. Base your purchase on price.
     
  3. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Hi Kiz,

    I just want it for email, internet, word, excel, etc. Basic stuff. Not interested in super graphic or gaming stuff. Just regular old usage. I mainly just want to replace my old pc because it is not only old, but it is to the point where it is not worth having it repaired, cleaned, whatever.

    Abner
     
  4. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    My recommendation is staying with Intel because I had horrible experiences with AMD in the past. Most of the time, AMD tended to be slow down during the time of usage.
     
  5. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I have not had good luck with HP lately. I prefer Dell
     
  6. BlueMason

    BlueMason Audaces fortuna juvat

    For what you're going to use it for, I'd buy the cheaper of the two (since you're not worrying about gaming / specific software performance) :)

    I am a fan of Toshiba, Dell and Apple (Apple displays are hard to beat.. the iMac is an awesome piece of computing), with Apple's downside being that of a higher expense, however longevity being a definite plus.
     
  7. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member



     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I'm another one who'd never buy another computer from HP. I haven't bought a desktop machine in years, and that one was from System76, which is a Linux-only vendor. Generally, for your needs, less expensive should be fine.
     
  9. emmzee

    emmzee New Member

    In terms of processor power, according to PassMark performance test benchmarks (higher is better):

    G630 = 2,633
    PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

    E450 = 1,270
    PassMark CPU Benchmarks - High Mid Range CPU's

    So the G630 is clearly superior, at least according to this one benchmark. Whether it will make a serious difference to you in your day-to-day emails etc, I don't really know. If the price is similar, you might as well go for the more powerful CPU ...

    I do recommend buying your computer from a local store rather than HP/Dell/etc. Even better, if you have someone who is knowledgeable about computer hardware (techie) they might be willing to buy the parts and build the computer for you if you buy them dinner. :) Just make sure they clearly understand what you want/need and give them a specific price point, otherwise you may end up with a super-powered machine that costs twice as much as you expected and glows with dozens of unnecessary blue lights in the dark. :D
     
  10. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Yes, I agree. I went to the small computer place by my house since I have been going there since they opened 10 years ago. Even though the guy could have sold me a computer, he advised me clean up the viruses my DELL desktop has. Doing this would enable to do the stuff I need to like internet, word, excel, etc.

    I think eventually, I will end up buying a apple/mac because of their superior ability to fight off viruses.

    Thanks everyone,

    Abner :smile:
     
  11. BlueMason

    BlueMason Audaces fortuna juvat

    Not so much that they're better at fighting them off, it's that fewer are written for macs. The Windows OS is easier to attack and there are a great deal more Windows users than Mac users, so it makes sense for Malware writers to target those... (kinda like fishing with a fishing pole vs fishing with dynamite).

    I re-install my OS periodically, as every time you install / uninstall a program it leaves traces behind (the ones that don't uninstall entirely end up slowing the system down (i.e. startup searches for files it can't find) though it'll take more than just a few to do that)); adding some RAM will also speed the system up a little. You definitely need to ensure your version of Windows is fully up to date by going to the Microsoft Windows Update site, then install an internet suite that's free and will protect you from a host of stuff (e.g. Comodo - free suite that covers quite a bit); then run a program such as Secunia PSI, which will scan your system for installed software and it will tell you if there are updates available for it.

    I personally use FireFox and run the NoScript addon which will block all adware/popups/what-have-you .. I allow only the site I go to and then, if I don't go there often, only allow it temporarily... ya just gotta try and tread carefully onto the information highway :)
     
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  12. emmzee

    emmzee New Member

    Personally, even though I own an iPhone, I'm sticking with Windows PCs. As BlueMason noted, the reason for greater risk of viruses on PCs is mostly due to 1) Prevalence of PCs vs Macs, 2) Only one legal vendor of Mac hardware vs 1,000's for PCs, and 3) More security problems in Windows (due mostly to 1 & 2) ... in roughly that order. I don't like the fact that Apple keeps a stranglehold on their computer hardware. I'd prefer to build my own for cheaper.

    (Interlocutor: "Why don't you own an Android phone then, loser?" / Me: "Shut up! That's why!!!")

    I haven't had a virus or spyware in probably 10 years, and all it takes to be 99% safe these days is to run a decent real-time virus protection program (ex, Comodo, Avast, etc), personally I just use Microsoft's free Security Essentials for that, and most importantly be very careful re what kind of websites you visit and emails you open.
     
  13. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Ah, thanks for the explanation. for now, the guy cleaned it up for me, and I bought a used flat screen monitor from him to give it a litle more of an updated look, so I am set for a while.

    Thanks for the suggestions everyone,

    Abner :smile:


     

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