Deputies union gives version of Marine shooting

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  2. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    What a tragic situation all around. I generally do not Monday mornining quarterback these situations. Hopefully it will all come out in the end. I am upset with shitty journalism (most of it is) the initial story is so rife with speculation and out and out false information that you have to wonder how these people still continue have jobs.

    Sounds like a good shoot within what we know about the situation. Sad story.
     
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  3. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    A very sad story.
     
  4. rmm0484

    rmm0484 Member

    This active duty Marine was part of the 3112 (transportation) Community, and an all around really good guy. Everyone in our office is upset about what seems to be heavy handed action on the part of the police. He was in the habit of taking his girls to the running field for some daddy time with them before taking them to school and then going to work. There are reports that he suffered from cardiac arrest, but that may have been after he was shot in the back, in front of his daughters, in the car. Notice that the police did not release this information, only the union.
     
  5. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    I don't think we even know enough about it to call it heavy handed. The guy did ram a closed gate on a school campus. His public face and his private life my be no where close to the same. I doubt the cop just shot the guy in front of his kids (after talking to them) for no reason.
     
  6. rmm0484

    rmm0484 Member

    He may have had a heart attack, an autopsy said that he had cardiac arrest. I am very close to people who know him well, so I am getting only one side of it, I realize. I experienced this same phenomenon when someone hit my dog with his car. He saw one thing about the incident, I saw another. My dog is on the mend, fortunately. Not so fortunate for the Marine in the story. The initial reports were that he was shot in the back while in his car, with his daughters. Whatever happened, how horrible for those girls.
     
  7. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    Oh god yes, those poor children will never be the same.
     
  8. rmm0484

    rmm0484 Member

    Los Angeles Times
    February 17, 2012
    Pg. AA3

    Colonel Decries Statements About Marine Shot In O.C.

    By Tony Perry

    Camp Pendleton's commanding officer said he is displeased with the "incorrect and deeply hurtful" comments made about a Marine sergeant who was fatally shot by an Orange County sheriff's deputy in a dark high school parking lot.

    "While I am confident they will do the right thing in the end, I am less than satisfied with the official response from the city of San Clemente and Orange County," Col. Nicholas Marano said in a written statement Thursday.

    "Many of the statements made concerning Manny Loggins' character over the past few days are incorrect and deeply hurtful to an already grieving family," he added.

    The union representing Orange County sheriff's deputies issued a statement this week saying that Sgt. Manuel Loggins contributed to his own death. He was shot during the predawn hours Feb. 7 by a deputy in the parking lot of San Clemente High School after allegedly yelling "irrational statements," the union said.

    Loggins' daughters, ages 9 and 14, were seated in his car when he was shot. Orange County authorities said the deputy who shot the Marine felt the girls' lives were in danger.

    "The Manuel Loggins described by his friends and loved ones in the media is not the Manuel Loggins encountered by our deputies the morning of Feb. 7, nor as described by the children to the deputies at the scene before he returned to the [GMC] Yukon," Tom Dominguez, president of the Assn. of Orange County Deputy Sheriffs, said in the statement.

    "It is unfortunate," Dominguez said, "that his actions put his own children into immediate danger and resulted in his death."

    Late Thursday, the union issued a statement saying it did not intend to malign Loggins' character.

    "We issued the facts, not a commentary on the character of any individual in this case," Dominguez said.

    Loggins has been described by friends and fellow Marines as a deeply religious man and someone who respected authority and followed rules.

    The shooting is being investigated by the Orange County district attorney. The name of the deputy who fired the fatal shot has not been released, though he has been described as a former Marine.
     
  9. rmm0484

    rmm0484 Member

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