Thinking of moving?

Then whatever you do, don't move to one of these places, voted by the Business Insider to be the 20 most miserable cities in the USA (hint: Florida and California are prominently present)

20. New Orleans
19. Orlando
18. San Francisco
17. Los Angeles
16. Lakeland (FLA)
15. Modesto
14. Bakersfield
13. Boise
12. Detroit (please note - it's real bad in your town if you're worse than Detroit)
11. Phoenix
10. Tampa
9. Fresno
8. Miami
7. Palm Bay (FLA)
6. Sarasota
5. Cape Coral (FLA)
4. Stockton (CA)
3. Sacramento
2. Riverside
1. Las Vegas

OK, here's the link:

The Most Miserable Cities In America

 

Is that most miserable to least, or vice-versa? IOW, is Las Vegas or New Orleans the worst?

I constantly complain about Massachusetts, due to the harsh winter weather and liberal political climate, but in reality I can't picture living anywhere but New England.

Where else can I enjoy the beach in the summer, see amazing foliage 2 months later, and take my kids sledding 2 months after that?

 

Were you ever in New Orleans pre-Katrina? Without the impacts of Katrina I would rank it right near the top of crappy places I have been and I have been to quite a few of them.

 

I feel the exact same way about Washington State.

According to the article, Las Vegas is the worst.

 

Yeah, but it doesn't rain nearly as much in Massachusetts, and we don't have crystal meth......yet! :tongue2:

 

Not much rain in Eastern Washington and if you don't think you have meth you might want to look in that pipe you are smokin' :biggrin:

 

We see it once in awhile, but very rarely. When I was on the drug unit, we used to get all sorts of warning bulletins from the West Coast, but it hasn't seem to have caught-on here.

Not that I'm complaining! :biggrin:

 

Ditto. It was a shit hole before Katrina. I'm sorry it was. Being a non-drinker and walking down Bourbon street amongst the drunks and jerks does not a good impression make. I can see why it would be debauched fun for those so inebriated, but since I was not...it stunk, the people were rude (unless, again, if you are drunk-then you think everyone is nice) it smelled bad, and even as Marines we were not up for getting out of our car when we drove through certain areas.

I feel bad for the people of NO post-Katrina. But, there is a very good reason why some did not come back.

 

We're still well below the Meth capital of the US-Missouri but it is a huge problem. Washington has more meth labs than Oregon and Idaho as well as way more than Montana. It's a bad drug. I've lived in Spokane my entire life (except for 7 years in SoCal, 3 years in Portland, OR and now 1 year in Baltimore, MD) and I've never been the victim of a crime, nor seen a meth house, or been afraid to walk anywhere.

Now, ask me what happened to me and my family on July 4th at the inner harbor here in Baltimore. Flash Mobs are not funny when it's the wrong people with the wrong intent. Add to that Maryland's very restrictive concealed carry laws and it was not a place for us to be.

I've lived in enough places and traveled to nearly every part of the country and I can tell you this. There are millions of people who live in those top 20 worst cities and they love it. There are people who hate where you are from and will say the nastiest things about it (see me and my opinion on NOLA). People choose to live in places for various reasons.

Once I get back to Spokane, I am NEVER leaving. Ever.

I hope you all are able to find a good safe place to live and raise your family and enjoy your later years.

 

And what, praytell, is wrong with the Evergreen State?

 

I have briefly visited several of these cities (San Francisco, Detroit, Tampa, Sacramento) and thought they were just cities. Now I never lived in any of them for more than a few days and, you know, you go to museums, restaurants, etc. and don't see much "reality," I liked San Francisco and didn't like Detroit. The other two seemed unremarkable to me. So what about the reverse? Which are the best cities?

 

I live in Eastern WA - with the exception of the harsh winters, the fact that the West side of the state calls the shots for everyone else, and our professional sports teams there is nothing wrong with Washington.

 

Let me know when you get back and I will buy you a coffee. Spokane rules.

 

Ah! I lived in Western Washington for close to fifteen years.

 

Hahaha....you've obviously been here!

 

I grew up in Louisiana and I saw post and pre Katrina New Orleans...hands down one of the worst cities in the United States where murder and gang activity is almost a sanctioned sport. But it is far from "the" worst. Right now there are small border towns in Texas like Brownsville and Eagle Pass that could possibly be on that list. I agree, Detroit should be in the top 1 or 2. Newark, NJ is an armpit and Washington D.C. (the surrounding areas) looks like a combination of Mr. Rogers Neighborhood meets Boys in the Hood. Alexandria, Louisiana is just as bad as New Orleans, but without the charm, character and with more of a "small town gone bad" kind of feel. But at least in Alexandria the cops don't beat the crap out of you and take your spending cash...and I haven't heard of any Wards where they ambush police and tourists. I love Louisiana and I love the people of New Orleans but the city itself is the closest thing to pure anarchy I've ever seen.