Alabama HR Policy: Unaccredited degrees or education

I thought this information may be of interest.


http://www.personnel.state.al.us/Content.aspx?Pg=32

"State of Alabama Personnel Department



Policy on Accepting College Coursework, Post-Secondary and Advanced Degrees"



"2. Coursework or degrees from schools that have not been accredited by a regional accreditation association
will be accepted if a regionally accredited school considers the coursework or degree to be an acceptable
prerequisite for admission to an advanced degree program. For example, if a regionally accredited school
accepts an applicant’s bachelor’s degree for admittance into a graduate degree program, State Personnel will
accept the degree. In the case of required college coursework (but no degree requirement), State Personnel
will accept the college coursework if a regionally accredited school accepts the coursework towards a postsecondary
degree (e.g., a bachelor’s degree). This must be documented by a letter of acceptance from the
regionally accredited school. State Personnel will review such requests on a case-by-case basis.
Note: This policy is subject to change. Certain state agencies may have additional requirements."

 

thats kind of a low blow to folks with NA degree's.....

 

Not that bad really.

All you have to do is find one RA school that will accept your NA bachelor's and you meet this requirement.

 

Alabama huh? Redneck southren state that does'nt suprise me one bit.

 

I beg your pardon? Care to elaborate? While your mulling over your response here's the correct spelling of "southern" and "doesn't". But hey, what do I know? I resemble the remark.
(Now where's my banjo?)

 

Southwestern College of Winfield, KS, at one time accepted nationally-accredited (DETC) credit hours. I only see a statement about accepting regionally accredited credit hours in transfer. Can anyone confirm whether the institution accepts nationally-accredited (DETC) credit hours at present?

American Public University and American Military University have both national and regional accreditation. This institution should accept either in transfer.

 

How would you like to kiss my Southern ass?
Somebody pass me the can of troll spray!

 

You can kiss mine first. Bitch.

 

Hey hey hey hey....simmer down. Gee whiz. I am a Texan here.....and a Southerner. Let us play nice.

 

ok so mark off a spot it seems you are all a$$......


(sorry Michael too good to pass up.)

 

Tell that to a Black Alabama Congressman or the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce or the Chinese American Chamber of Commerce or the many white, black, asian, indian, latino students attending universities and colleges in Alabama. Many people have their own prejudices and stereotypes. However, this is a small world and the person who you offend because of skin color
may be your boss in the near future. That boss may recognize you in a forum if you choose to volunteer personal info. Just be careful.

http://www.house.gov/arturdavis/

http://www.2chambers.com/birmingh.htm

http://www.cabab.org/index.htm

 

OK. my thing is they are trying to keep old traditional ways in by saying''your NA degree is only good because a RA school says so??? that's bullshit.

Only because traditional schools are imtimidated by NA school but why??

My earlier comment has nothing to do with RACE but with a OLD MIND SET.
Now tru enough Alabama is one of the most racist states thier is but this is 2008 not the 1800's.

 

Why do you think traditional schools are intimidated by NA schools?

 

I don't believe it's intimidation but rather as you state an "old mind set" and acceptance of the standard within the academic community. My guess is that due to the vocational nature of most NA accreditors the acceptance of NA schools will be a lengthy process before becoming the norm. Alabama did not previously accept NA degrees for state employment so this change is at least a positive step and not a negative action.

Truly, any degree is only as good as its acceptance. Acceptance is one measure of utility and in some instances legitimacy (as in acceptance to grad school). In addition until NA grads add to the body of knowledge, or become the respected authorities in their field not much is going to change the mindset of schools that have been around centuries before NA schools.

If you will do a search on the forum you will find some very good observations from folks more erudite than me regarding this issue.

As for Alabama being racist I would agree in some quarters race is an issue, but not just for minorities, and hardly as it relates to admittance to college level learning or the acceptance of NA degrees.

 

Now Alabama is a racist state....a real class act.
Maybe you need to look beyond the cold shoulder from RA standards and look as to why you pissed your money away....can you feel the love?

However I do apologize to those who have NA degrees, yet act like they have some damn sense.

I don’t think The University of Alabama is shaking in their (notice how I used "their") shoes over the NA competition BWAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

 

Because with NA schools
1. you can finish as you want in your own pace.(most of them have no guide lines)

2.they are also reconized by chea as well (even though RA schools are chea most won't reconize NA schools as equal due to competetion).

3. If they reconize Na schools it fear that most will go the NA route due to getting done on thier own time, not waiting for this semester to start, lots of redtape).

 

It's easy to tell that you are one of those racist KKK. But that's on you i have better things to do. If you wasn't rascist you would not be offended. this is my last post directly to you. so you do you and i will do me. see ya.

as for anyone else we can agree and disagree without strife. and not fallout at the end of the day.

 

Yes, your earlier comment has much to do about race. You are injecting race into this thread. "Redneck refers to a stereotype of usually rural, Caucasian (i.e. white) people of lower socio-economic status in the United States and Canada." Source: Wikipedia

"It's easy to tell that you are one of those racist KKK. But that's on you i have better things to do. If you wasn't rascist you would not be offended. this is my last post directly to you. so you do you and i will do me. see ya."

- See what I mean.

 

I actually know Mr Buck personally. I can vouch for him. He is not racist one iota. I am not going to get into with you, but please stop with the racist refrains. Just because we are from the South does not make us even close to be racist.

 

Thanks for posting this Kevin. The State of CA HR Dept. recognizes any degree that falls under the auspices of USDOE and CHEA. Many of these policies are changing and evolving as time goes by, and also as schools and employers become more familiar with the NA's.

There are many positive changes going on in regards to NA. As you know, Texas changed their policy of not recognizing NA degrees. This was a long battle, but logic and fairness finally prevailed. It's a long story, so I won't go into it.

Folks, let's not turn this into a pissing match. Let's discuss things in an open manner, while trying not to get personal. I would encourage all of you to post any upcoming legislation that could wind up with the same misguided policies that Texas had. Last year somebody posted a South Dakota proposed bill that would have duplicated the Texas CB situation. I forwarded it the DETC director, and he contacted the author of the bill the night before the legislation was to be voted on. Once Mr. Lambert explained the fine points of accreditation and how it works, the politician profusely thanked him and changed the legislation to include recognition of all degrees recognized by the USDOE and the CHEA, as it should be. People need to be educated on this issue.

So, let's all cool down, learn from one another, and share our knowledge.

Thanks for your time,

Abner