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  1. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I've been buying US Savings Bonds for the last 20+ years, I started while in the Army and haven't stopped since; it's just something I've always done out of habit. They're all sitting in a safe deposit box, and I'm a bit embarrassed to admit I don't know much about them. A few questions, if anyone knows the answers;

    1) What is the maturation length for a series EE bond?

    2) What is the tax penalty for cashing them in after maturation?

    3) Can they be rolled over into an IRA or a child's college education fund with no penalty?

    4) Can I use them to buy more bonds with no penalty?

    Any other information about them would be appreciated.
     
  2. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

  3. Hillie2

    Hillie2 New Member

    Story about bonds

    Hi Bruce, This is off topic but I thought of interest. My grandmother purchased bonds for my brothers and I from the time we were born with her grocery savings and rebates. She was not a woman of means but left us all with several thousand dollars accumulated over 22 years. Hille
     
  4. raristud2

    raristud2 New Member

    1. Currently, series EE bonds have an original maturity of 20 years. However, the EE bonds will continue to earn interest for another 10 years. http://www.treasurydirect.gov/news/pressroom/currenteebondratespr.htm

    2 "Like all treasury securities, they are exempt from state and local taxes, but in the specific case of savings bonds, all federal taxes may be deferred until the bond is redeemed. Therefore, even though interest will accrue, no taxes will be due until that money can be accessed. Additionally, if the money received at redemption is used to pay tuition expenses for the holder, a spouse or a dependent in the same year, the interest earned may be exempt from federal taxes as well." http://www.investorguide.com/igu-article-577-bonds-savings-bonds.html


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  5. raristud2

    raristud2 New Member

    Here is a clearer response to question number two:

    ""Savings bonds are exempt from state and local income taxes. But, savings bonds are subject to state and local estate taxes, inheritance, gift, and other excise taxes, whether Federal or State." http://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/planning/plan_tax.htm
     
  6. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Being 40+, I should probably look into cashing in the bonds which have matured, and stop buying new bonds.

    For the mature bonds, is there any tax penalty? If there is a penalty, can I avoid it by rolling them into an IRA or something similar?
     
  7. raristud2

    raristud2 New Member

    There is no tax penalty if you cash in at maturity. However, your interest will be taxed at the federal level. You can avoid this by rolling over to a 529 plan.

    "Series EE and I US Savings Bonds issued after December 31, 1989 may be redeemed tax-free in order to contribute the proceeds to a section 529 plan or Coverdell Education Savings Account. (To take advantage of this, file IRS Form 8815 to claim an exclusion for the interest after rolling the proceeds of these US Savings Bonds into a section 529 college savings plan or Coverdell Education Savings account. Write "529 College Savings Plan" or "Coverdell Education Savings Account" in the answer to 1(b), where it asks for the name of the educational institution. The specific citation in the tax code for this guidance is IRC Section 135(c)((2)(C).)

    http://www.finaid.org/savings/529plans.phtml
     
  8. raristud2

    raristud2 New Member

    According to Kiplinger's.com, you can also make a tax-free transfer to Education IRAs. These tax free transfers to IRAs and 529 plans apply to Series EE bonds purchased on or after January 1, 1990.
     
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  9. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Thanks for the responses, very helpful!
     
  10. raristud2

    raristud2 New Member

    You're welcomed
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    raristud - you've come through with some nice info. I learned something good today. Thanks.
     
  12. raristud2

    raristud2 New Member

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  13. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Also, there is a website that you can enter the serial number of the bond and it will give you the current value. My wife got some bonds her grandmother purchased in early 70's. They all had a face value of $800 but a current value of just over $4K.

    Here is the link - http://www.treasurydirect.gov/BC/SBCPrice
     
  14. raristud2

    raristud2 New Member

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