Recognition of Incorporated Engineer Professional Qualifications within the European

Recognition of Incorporated Engineer Professional Qualifications within the European Union

The European Commission has issued Directives for ‘fast-track' admission to the profession in EU Member States. UK engineering professional qualifications that are recognised under the Directives are CEng, IEng and EngTech. Any engineer in a Member State country can apply to another Member State to have their status recognised, with a view to access to practise as a professional engineer.

A special statement of status under the relevant Directive is available to Incorporated Engineers.

 

I think this is a little bit old news, isn´t it? Nevetheless, Lerner, would you be so kind to post a link to read the news in detail? TIA

 

Thank You Lerner

I did not know about the progress on this matter. I found it to be useful information.

Laser200
Incorporated Engineer, EC UK

 

Working as an Engineer in Europe.

I'm not Lerner and i don't know Lerner's original source, but here is a quite complete PDF about this topic: http://www.istructe.org.uk/region/files/WorkingAsAnEngineerEurope.pdf

mintaru

 

http://www.engc.org.uk/Services/IEng_directives.aspx

 

European Professional Engineer

COOL!

Sooner or later USA will need to acknowledge this qualification system. It doesn't appear to be going away. In fact, it appears to be growing in strength.

 

How about CITP?

 

CITP

I'm not aware of that qualification. Maybe you can fill us in.

 

Re: CITP

Chartered IT Professional, granted by the British Computer Society (http://www.bcs.org.uk), an organisation by Royal Charter - setup similar to IEE / IET.

 

Thanks a lot, Lerner.

 

Re: CITP

CITP is new name as of 2002 if I'm not mistaken awarded to Chartred IT Professionals by the British Computer Society a Chartered Engineering Institution licensed by EC UK.

They used to call it Chartered IT Engineer at some time just like
IEE used to have their title of Chartered Electrical Engineer ( was discontinued in 2002).

 

What I´d like to know, Lerner, is who or which institution confers that EurIng title or licence or whatever. AFAIK, only Swiss engineers use those acronyms before their name. Here in Holland, I have never ever seen anyone using it. Neither in France,Spain, UK, or Italy. Will it be required by employers? Would you be so kind to elaborate on this EurIng business ? Thanks a lot in advance.

 

since nobody answered...

The EurIng is a professional title (no licence) offered by FEANI - the European Federation of National Engineering Associations. (http://www.feani.org/)
This title is in fact only a tool for the recognition of national diplomas among EU and EFTA member states. It is not required by very most employers, however, the national engineering degrees and titles are often unknown in other member states and are therefore often misunderstood or even not properly recognised by employers.

Here some examples:

1. Graduates with the Swedish Civilingeniör, the Norwegian Sivilingeniør, or the Danish Civilingeniør degrees are very often no civil engineers. These degrees (at Master's level) are granted in all engineering disciplines! However, there are also the degrees kandidatexamen (bachelor's degree) and magisterexamen (Master's degree) in engineering at Swedish universities, but the structure of the Swedish Civilingeniör is very different to a Swedish magisterexamen in engineering.

2. No one outside Iceland knows the Icelandic engineering titles Verkfræðingur and Teknikfræðingur, and no one outside Hungary knows the Hungarian engineering degrees Okleveles mérnök and Okleveles üzemmérnök.

3. The Diplom-Ingenieur in the German speaking countries, the French Ingénieur diplomé, and the Finish Diplomi-Insinöör are degrees at Master's level, but the Danish Diplomingeniør degree is a Bachelor's degree. This Danish degree replaced the older Danish engineering degrees Teknikumingeniør and Akademiingeniør in the 1990's - both degrees at Bachelor's level, but with different structure and from different types of institutions. However, the degree Diplom-Ingenieur(FH) from a Fachhochschule in the German speaking countries is also a degree at Bachelor's level, but the structure of this degree is different to the new introduced Bachelor's degrees at German universities, and it is also different to the Diplom I degree from a German Gesamthochschule - an other German degree at Bachelor's level. Additionally there is the Diplom-Ingenieur(BA), not an accademic degree, but a professional qualification in engineering from a German Berufsakademie, equivalent to a Bachelor's degree.

4. The Polish degree inzynier is a Bachelor's degree, but the inzenýr from the Czech Republic and the inzinier from Slovakia are Master's degrees.

5. The degree diplomirani inzenir from Slovenia is a Bachelor's degree today, but it was a Master's degree before 1998! (The new Master's degree in Engineering is the univerzitetni diplomirani inzenir.)

There are unfortunately many possible misunderstandings and the EurIng was introduced to fix these problems. Therefore this title has only a real value for engineers, who want to work in an EU or EFTA member country, where the engineering degrees or titles of their native counties are unknown or misleading. I guess that's also the reason for the widespread use of the EurIng by Swiss engineers. It seems to have a real value for them!

 

Thank you VERY much for the information. I appreciate it. Engineering, however, is not a regulated profession in some countries and I have the impresion these are efforts by the profesion to help with the mobility of workers accross the Unionbut the European Comission is not behind it so I am not sure s to whether this nomenclature is recognized by the state members or just by professionals as you say. In Spain, for instance, engineering is regulated. I wonder how they will treat engineers from other countries in which the profession is not regulated by law.

I am looking into this Chartered Engineer and also into this EuroIng but I suspect here in Holland most people and employers don´t know about it. Thanks, mintaru, for your interesting insights, and everyone else. Regards.

 

PS I think the EC should adopt this title and make it official to prevent intrusism.