Who's Who in Australia entry for Dr Walsh of Brannagh

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  1. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    I've been sent the below entry from somebody who is doing some research on Greenwich. The publication Who's Who in Australia contains the following entry:

    "WALSH of BRANNAGH, The Duke de RONCERAY Sir John Francis Patrick Cyril Colclough GCStJ, LLB, DipCrim (Melb.), BEd, DipEd (Monash), DJuris, PhD (Columbia), GradDipLaw (ANU)

    Publications: The Six Years War, Drugs and the Law, Bless and Keep the Magistrates., Leges Armorum, A Day in the Courts, Speak Before Sentence, Laissez Faire, Laissez Passer."

    I'm offering a free 1 year membership to Degreeinfo for the first person who can identify the error(s).

    Cheers,

    George
     
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    For some strange reason my brain read: "Bless the Law and Keep the Margaritas".

    George, I'd like to buy a vowel, please.
     
  3. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    Ok, I'll give you a freebie. The letter "P"

    Cheers

    George
     
  4. davidhume

    davidhume New Member

    2 doctorates from 'Columbia' ...ummm 'Columbia University' or 'Columbia Pacific"?

    The latter of course!
     
  5. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    WALSH of BRANNAGH

    Certainly an affectation, but not necessarily incorrect.

    The Duke de RONCERAY Sir John Francis Patrick Cyril Colclough GCStJ

    He's both a duke and a knight? That's inherently unlikely.

    I just pulled out my old 1990 copy of Whittaker's Almanack, and I couldn't find any 'Duke de Ronceray' in the English, Scottish, Irish, British or UK peerages.

    I assume that 'GCStJ' means Knight Grand Cross of the Order of St. John (or James)'. Does that order exist and in what country? I'm willing to bet that Mr. Walsh was never knighted by the Queen.

    I don't know about the degrees and publications, except that I'd probably want to verify these:

    DJuris, PhD (Columbia)
     
  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Re: Who's Who in Australia entry for Dr Walsh of Brannagh

    Not really. HRH Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, is, indeed, also a Knight of the Garter and a Knight of the Thistle (amongst many others).

    http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page443.asp
     
  7. JamesK

    JamesK New Member

    Yes, but when one is both a Duke and a Knight, one never uses both as pre-nominals.

    The Order of St. John is recognised by the Crown, with the Queen as sovereign of the order. It is, however, outside the British honours system and grants no titles or precedence.

    (He could only be Sir such and such if he was a knight bachelor, which grants no postnominal and I do not think he is such).
     
  8. davidhume

    davidhume New Member

    My bet is that both titles are as doggy as his doctorates!

    George, did I win a prize?
     
  9. davidhume

    davidhume New Member

    www.myprivacyclub.com

    The Duke de Ronceray: Overseas Residence and Passport Programs.

    A genuine Duke, who is also a barrister at law, and who “retired” several years ago to a little-known tax haven, Ronceray guides our readers through all the legal passport programs available and discusses residence options for those of you who want to vote with your feet!

    Obtaining dual or alternative citizenship is a valuable part of your long-term plan, but expatriation is a big step to take and you need proper guidance. Our expert advisors are on hand to help with all matters of immigration and relocation.

    The Duke de Ronceray is also a passionate Libertarian and constitutional expert and has represented clients all over the world. His experience in combating government oppression and fighting for the rights of the individual are second to none.

    So this 'satisfied' customer thinks the 'duke' is 'genuine'!
     
  10. davidhume

    davidhume New Member

    The 'Duke' - misled or a fraud?

    http://www.chivalricorders.org/orders/self-styled/selfsty2.htm

    Also associated with the Brimeyer faction is a Mr John Walsh "of Branagh", Chancellor of "Greenwich University", a degree mill based in Hawaii. [23] He is an advocate of Brimeyer's pretension to be the grandson of the Grand Duchess Maria Nicolaevna and therefore legitimate claimant to the Russian throne. The fact that the bodies of the Czar and his family have been discovered and that the two missing bodies, of the Czarevich and one Grand Duchess (either Maria or Anastasia), were documented as having been burnt, serves to disprove this connection. Mr Walsh has claimed [24] that Brimeyer's descent from the Czar is accepted by the Union of Russian Nobility and the Monarchist Party; this author has been informed that this is emphatically not the case and that this recognition is from a fringe Monarchist organization, obviously entirely ignorant of the their nation's dynastic laws. [25] More recently, Mr Walsh, now styling himself "The Duke de Branagh and de Ronceray" circulated a letter bearing the heading " The Regency of H.I.R.H. Prince Alexis II" laying claim to run the Brimeyer organization. The address, a post box on "Norfolk Island, South Pacific" which he described as a "former British colony, now a parliamentary monarchy, located in the Pacific Ocean about halfway between Australia and New Zealand". This letter, dated 27 January 1996, states that Brimeyer's "passing is a great loss, and not only to members of the Order of St John, but also to Russia and Ukraine, and to the other countries from which he held royal and princely descent. In fact his death has proved such an incalculable loss that one can say the history of Europe and of the entire world has been affected". Indeed, one can say this, but anyone who does so must be considered to be suffering from delusions. Walsh claims to have visited the College of Arms, Westminster (the College is actually situated in the City of London!) whose officers are well-acquainted with the false pretensions of the late "Prince" Alexis, and "Washington, in the United States of America, where serious discussions were held with diplomatic and government persons". Whether Walsh seriously believes the nonsensical and contradictory claims of Brimeyer or is simply taking advantage of the ignorance of others is difficult to tell. We may hope that Alexis's widow and child, who are not mentioned in Walsh's letter, will have nothing further to do with the whole ridiculous charade. [26]

    The first connection of "prince Alexis/Alejandro" with the Saint John name came with his "nomination" by "prince Robert" as "Hereditary Royal Protector" on 15 April 1981 and as "grand prior of Castile and Leon". One of "prince Alexis/Alejandro's" adherents, D. Luis Blazquez Fabian, then registered with the Spanish Ministry of the Interior an entity named the "Capitulo Espanol de la Orden Soberana y Militar de San Juan de Jerusalem, Caballeros Hospitalarios Ecumenicos de Rodas y Malta" with a patrimony of 100,000 pesetas (approximately $1000); subsequently, on 10 December 1984, a "Soberana, Orden, Hospitalaria y Militar de San Juan de Jerusalem, Caballeros Ecumenicos de Rodas y Malta, O.S.J., Real Commendaduria del Principado de Cataluna" was registered in Barcelona with the Generalitat of Catalonia. In 1983, "prince Alexis/Alejandro" became involved with an extreme right-wing group which included several of the lawyers who had defended the participants in the 1981 coup attempting to overthrow the Spanish democratic constitution. One of these gentlemen, Gerardo Quintana, was named "grand chancellor" but then, seeking autonomy from the "prince Robert" group, proclaimed himself "grand master". "Prince Alexis/Alejandro" appears to have equivocated for a while but, in 1985, reaffirmed his loyalty to "prince Robert" and, on 29 January 1985, the latter reappointed him to be the "only Royal Protector of the Sovereign Order and the only legitimate (sic) authority in the Kingdom of Spain” etc..etc…etc

    I think there is enough in this website to conclude that both titles are dubious at best and a fraud at worst!
     
  11. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    I have now received the full entry, and it does provide more details as per below:

    WALSH of BRANNAGH, The Duke de RONCERAY Sir John Francis Patrick Cyril ColcloughGCStJ, LLB, DipCrim (Melb.), BEd, DipEd (Monash), DJuris, PhD (Columbia), GradDipLaw (ANU)

    Career: Accredited Mediator and Conciliator; Barr/Solr Supreme Crt Vic., High Crt of Aust., Barr Supreme Crt NSW, Supreme Crt Norfolk Island, Vic. Bar, Ireland, England and Wales, admitted to Fed. Crts (USA); Dir Greenwich Univ. (Hawaii) since 1990, United Pacific Corp. since 1990, Internat. Inst. for Advanced Studies (Missouri, USA) since 1988, Vic. Res. Bureau Pty Ltd 1972-98, Medicode Pty Ltd 1964-89, Govr Sch. Theology England 1990-98; apptd as Notary Pub. for Norfolk Island by Archbp of Canterbury 1995; Fell. Royal Socy of Arts, Life Memb./Fell. Heraldry Socy of Aust., Companion of the Co. Armigers, Fell. Comm. Educ. Socy Aust., Fell. Oxf. Club, Fell. Carpathia Socy, former Memb.
    Cwealth Heraldry Bd; Hd Sovereign Order St John of Jerusalem since 1995, Regent of the Royal House of Anjou, Chancellor of Greenwich Univ., Regr of Arms for the Archdiocese of Melb.; Memb. Hon. Socy King's Inns (Ireland), Hon. Socy Inner Temple (England), Vic. Bar, Doctors' Commons (Norfolk Island), Pres. Norfolk Island Bar Assn, Delegate to the Internat. Bar Assn, Human Rights Inst., Academic and Judicial Memb. Assn Trial Lawyers of America, Memb. Cwealth Judges' and Magistrates' Assn; further titles: Marquis de Segre, Count de Bauge et de Fontevrault, Viscount de Fontevrault, Baron de Beaufort.

    Occupation: Barrister; Magistrate, Norfolk Island, since 1998; Deputy Presiding Member, Norfolk Island Gaming Authority, since 1998; Senior Member, Administrative Review Tribunal, Norfolk Island, since 1998.

    Child of: Sir John Francis Colcough Walsh of Brannagh, The Duke de Ronceray and The Hon Marie Bridget Colclough Walsh of Brannagh.

    Birth Details: Nov. 4, 1939, Greenwich, England, settled Aust. 1972, Norfolk Island 1994.

    Education: Univ. Melb., Monash Univ., Columbia Pacific Univ. (Calif, USA), American Coll. (Bryn Mawr, USA), ANU.

    Publications: The Six Years War, Drugs and the Law, Bless and Keep the Magistrates., Leges Armorum, A Day in the Courts, Speak Before Sentence, Laissez Faire, Laissez Passer.

    Clubs: RACV, Rolls-Royce Owners', Sandringham Yacht.

    Address: Doctors' Commons, PO Box 223, Norfolk Island 2899.

    Ethic: "Vires e Virtute."

    Cheers,

    George
     
  12. JamesK

    JamesK New Member

    Not even a legit Order of St. John.

    I think we have a challenger to Ansted's dubious distinction of most egregious use of titles.

    I suppose a curtain rod comes next.
     
  13. davidhume

    davidhume New Member

    Oh dear...the list of titles and honors just keep coming:

    further titles: Marquis de Segre, Count de Bauge et de Fontevrault, Viscount de Fontevrault, Baron de Beaufort.

    None, of course, are traceable!

    With the additional information that George has given, I missed out on his prize for picking the wrong university, but surely must get a consolation prize on the 'titles'
     
  14. JamesK

    JamesK New Member

    More information.

    He is listed as the Ambassador to Norfolk Island for the supposed Royal House of Stewart, pretenders to the throne of Scotland.
     
  15. davidhume

    davidhume New Member

    'Ambassador WITHIN Norfolk Island' - that's playing it safe to keep the Authorities off their backs!

    Obviously the 'Sir' title has no official recognition anywhere as you will only find mentioned in his profile or on some off beat website. No mention on official Norfolk island documents or proceedings. He must have some sense...and pride...
     
  16. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Who's Who in Australia entry for Dr Walsh of Brannagh

    Hi Quinn. I'm sorry that I wasn't clear.

    My intention wasn't to comment on Mr. Walsh simultaneously claiming to be a duke and a knight. What I meant to suggest was that it was inherently unlikely that he was either one.

    'David Hume's' post addressed that a lot better than I did.
     
  17. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Indeed, I missed that rule of style. Yes, duke trumps Sir/Chev. pre-nominally. Moreover, as mentioned, Sir is reserved for a very few orders (and knight bachelors) -- Chevalier for the rest (or post-nominals only).
     
  18. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    This titles thing is interesting.

    On the surface at least, academic titles, aristocratic titles and clerical titles are very different things.

    But all of them stroke the same psychological spot. They are self-esteem-enhancers.

    Most people who acquire degree-mill bachelors and masters degrees probably do so in hopes of job and wage advancement. But doctorates seem to be a different animal. With fake doctors it's the title that's the key: The mode of address. The letters after their name. The deference that others are expected to give them as an expert.

    But Ph.D.s aren't the only food that feeds that hunger.

    So it shouldn't be surprising that the kind of people who are attracted to doubtful doctorates are simultaneously attracted to phony orders of nobility and to religious robes and curtain rods.

    It isn't all that unusual to see degree mill operators running ordination mills or claiming to be ambassadors of nonexistent countries.

    So I have to say that this stuff doesn't really surprise me. It fits a pattern.
     
  19. Guest

    Guest Guest

    These comments from personal experience -- others' mileage may vary considerably (I've been told my views about many different subjects are rather peculiar):

    Knighthood in an active order (rather than a purely titular order) is a responsibility as well as an honor. Do some people seek such titles for the title only? Yes -- these are sometimes called "gong collectors". It takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.

    But knighthood in an active order demands daily introspection and clarity. It sears the conscience at every public action. How one dresses in public, how one speaks, what one writes -- everything. It is very similar to wearing the priest's collar -- except most people upon seeing a knight in public will not recognize the signals. Only the knight knows, in most company, of his vows and status. Ah, but the vested knight certainly knows! There's no "off duty knight." Every time a knight screws up in some way -- he or she is reminded of this fact -- internally.

    The title is only a very small part of it. Every time a conscientious knight fails to be chivalrous -- his or her conscience is branded. He or she vowed to protect the less strong, to assist those in need, to honor ideals that to some degree have fallen into lack of use in today's society. He or she is also human, and will fail to be 100% capable of always meeting these vows. In this way, knighthood can play hellish games with one's self-esteem if one also has any degree of a conscience.

    So, while there may be some who would eagerly covet such a title -- active knighthood (in any of its various forms) is not a title that demands respect from others through some automatic protocol. It is a title that demands that the knight respect others and his or her vows, before all else -- even when in doing so, this reveals flaws in his or her own self that must be vanquished through continual striving for self-betterment.

    Unlike royalty-by-birth -- the active knight is made from common stuff with uncommon ideals. This is the promise of chivalric orders: that commoners can strive to uncommon ideals of social responsibility. Kings, Queens, Dukes, Barons, Counts -- are born (or sometimes "created") -- but knights are never born such. The knight would hope that others would also strive for those same uncommon ideals -- and whereas one might hope to be a King (and never be created one) -- one might hope to be a knight -- and achieve this.

    Anyway -- that said -- I'm still trying to figure out what the freebie "P" that George gave me is about.

    Cheers.
     
  20. Jake_A

    Jake_A New Member

    Happy Holidays, Sir George - and all!

    What he said! (All of it).

    The above is an excellent synopsis of what ails the lot of 'em - a dearth of over-the-counter, self-esteem boosting pills - for holders and purveyors of all US and foreign diploma mill "degrees," almost all unaccredited "degrees" and/or most supremely substandard degrees.

    Fake diploma mill "degree"-holders, mill shills, persons brandishing many mighty-sounding-yet-useless-and-empty "Doctor" titles and the like - all of them fit the bill most aptly described by BillD above.

    Will they ever learn? I think not.

    So, let us give "Thanks" to providence for the existence and persistence of the eternal fake/substandard "degree" and fake honorary titles "time bomb."

    Their explosions are the only ones whiuch I can almost always applaud without regret or pity.

    Thanks.

    ;)
     

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