fave poetry thread

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  1. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Here's for starters:

    "Komm in den totgesagten park und schau:
    Der schimmer ferner lächelnder gestade,
    Der reinen wolken unverhofftes blau,
    Erhellt die weiher und die bunten pfade.

    Dort nimm das tiefe gelb, das weiche grau
    Von birken und von buchs, der wind ist lau,
    Die späten rosen welkten noch nicht ganz,
    Erlese, küsse sie und flicht den kranz.

    Vergiss auch diese letzten astern nicht,
    Den purpur um die ranken wilder reben,
    Und auch was übrig blieb von grünem leben
    Verwinde leicht im herbstlichen gesicht."

    Stefan George
     
  2. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

  3. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Goethe--

    Amerika, du hast es besser
    Als unser Kontinent, der alte,
    Hast keine verfallenen Schlösser
    Und keine Basalte.
    Dich stört nicht im Innern
    Zu lebendiger Zeit
    Unnützes Erinnern
    Und vergeblicher Streit.
     
  4. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Li Po, tr. Pound (filthy fascist but a great poet)

    From the Chinese of Li Po, usually considered the greatest poet of China: written by him while in exile about 760 A. D., to the Hereditary War-Councillor of Sho, “recollecting former companionship.”


    SO-KIN of Rakuho, ancient friend, I now remember
    That you built me a special tavern,
    By the south side of the bridge at Ten-Shin.
    With yellow gold and white jewels
    we paid for the songs and laughter,
    And we were drunk for month after month,
    forgetting the kings and princes.
    Intelligent men came drifting in, from the sea
    and from the west border,
    And with them, and with you especially,
    there was nothing at cross-purpose;
    And they made nothing of sea-crossing
    or of mountain-crossing,
    If only they could be of that fellowship.
    And we all spoke out our hearts and minds …
    and without regret.
    And then I was sent off to South Wei,
    smothered in laurel groves,
    And you to the north of Raku-hoku,
    Till we had nothing but thoughts and memories between us.
    And when separation had come to its worst
    We met, and travelled together into Sen-Go
    Through all the thirty-six folds of the turning and twisting waters;
    Into a valley of a thousand bright flowers …
    that was the first valley,
    And on into ten thousand valleys
    full of voices and pine-winds.
    With silver harness and reins of gold,
    prostrating themselves on the ground,
    Out came the East-of-Kan foreman and his company;
    And there came also the “True-man” of Shi-yo to meet me,
    Playing on a jewelled mouth-organ.
    In the storied houses of San-Ko they gave us
    more Sennin music;
    Many instruments, like the sound of young phœnix broods.
    And the foreman of Kan-Chu, drunk,
    Danced because his long sleeves
    Wouldn’t keep still, with that music playing.
    And I, wrapped in brocade, went to sleep with my head on his lap,
    And my spirit so high that it was all over the heavens.

    And before the end of the day we were scattered like stars or rain.
    I had to be off to So, far away over the waters,
    You back to your river-bridge.
    And your father, who was brave as a leopard,
    Was governor in Hei Shu and put down the barbarian rabble.
    And one May he had you send for me, despite the long distance;
    And what with broken wheels and so on, I won’t say it wasn’t hard going …
    Over roads twisted like sheep’s guts.
    And I was still going, late in the year,
    in the cutting wind from the north,
    And thinking how little you cared for the cost …
    and you caring enough to pay it.
    Then what a reception!
    Red jade cups, food well set, on a blue jewelled table;
    And I was drunk, and had no thought of returning;
    And you would walk out with me to the western corner of the castle,
    To the dynastic temple, with the water about it clear as blue jade,
    With boats floating, and the sound of mouth-organs and drums,
    With ripples like dragon-scales going grass-green on the water,
    Pleasure lasting, with courtezans going and coming without hindrance,
    With the willow-flakes falling like snow,
    And the vermilioned girls getting drunk about sunset,
    And the waters a hundred feet deep reflecting green eyebrows—
    Eyebrows painted green are a fine sight in young moonlight,
    Gracefully painted—and the girls singing back at each other,
    Dancing in transparent brocade,
    And the wind lifting the song, and interrupting it,
    Tossing it up under the clouds.

    And all this comes to an end,
    And is not again to be met with.
    I went up to the court for examination,
    Tried Layu’s luck, offered the Choyu song,
    And got no promotion,
    And went back to the East Mountains white-headed.

    And once again we met, later, at the South Bridge head.
    And then the crowd broke up—you went north to San palace.
    And if you ask how I regret that parting?
    It is like the flowers falling at spring’s end,
    confused, whirled in a tangle.
    What is the use of talking! And there is no end of talking—
    There is no end of things in the heart.

    I call in the boy,
    Have him sit on his knees to write and seal this,
    And I send it a thousand miles, thinking.

    (Translated by Ezra Pound from the notes of the late Ernest Fenollosa, and the decipherings of the Professors Mori and Araga.)
     
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  5. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    My favorite poet is Richard Brautigan, simply because his poetry was so outrageous, and made no sense whatsoever. An example is (I'm not certain about the title) "Two Guys", from Loading Mercury With a Pitchfork.

    Two guys get out of a car.

    They stand beside it.

    They don't know what else to do.
     
  6. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Oh yeah! And the wonderful book "Rommel Drives On Deep into Egypt".
    Much else, too.
     
  7. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    My favorite Brautigan is "Revenge of the Lawn."
    I've never developed much knowledge of poetry although I have some minor interest in haiku.
    Jack
     
  8. dcv

    dcv New Member

    One of my favorites is the Hymn to Proserpine...

    Hymn to Proserpine
    By Algernon Charles Swinburne
    (AFTER THE PROCLAMATION IN ROME OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH)
    Vicisti, Galilaee (thou hast conquered, O Galilean)

    I have lived long enough, having seen one thing, that love hath an end;
    Goddess and maiden and queen, be near me now and befriend.
    Thou art more than day or the morrow, the seasons that laugh or that weep;
    For these give joy and sorrow; but thou, Proserpina, sleep.

    Sweet is the treading of wine, and sweet the feet of the dove;
    But a goodlier gift is thine than foam of the grapes or love.
    Yea, is not even Apollo, with hair and harpstring of gold,
    A bitter God to follow, a beautiful God to behold?

    I am sick of singing: the bays burn deep and chafe: I am fain
    To rest a little from praise and grievous pleasure and pain.
    For the Gods we know not of, who give us our daily breath,
    We know they are cruel as love or life, and as lovely as death.

    O Gods dethroned and deceased, cast forth, wiped out in a day!
    From your wrath is the world released, redeemed from your chains, men say.
    New Gods are crowned in the city; their flowers have broken your rods;
    They are merciful, clothed with pity, the young compassionate Gods.

    But for me their new device is barren, the days are bare;
    Things long past over suffice, and men forgotten that were.
    Time and the Gods are at strife; ye dwell in the midst thereof,
    Draining a little life from the barren breasts of love.

    I say to you, cease, take rest; yea, I say to you all, be at peace,
    Till the bitter milk of her breast and the barren bosom shall cease.
    Wilt thou yet take all, Galilean? But these thou shalt not take,
    The laurel, the palms and the paean, the breasts of the nymphs in the brake;

    Breasts more soft than dove’s, that tremble with tenderer breath;
    And all the wings of the Loves, and all the joy before death;
    All the feet of the hours that sound as a single lyre,
    Dropped and deep in the flowers, with strings that flicker like fire.

    More than these wilt thou give, things fairer than all these things?
    Nay, for a little we live, and life hath mutable wings.
    A little while and we die; shall life not thrive as it may?
    For no man under the sky lives twice, outliving his day.

    And grief is a grievous thing, and a man hath enough of his tears:
    Why should he labour, and bring fresh grief to blacken his years?
    Thou hast conquered, O pale Galilean; the world has grown grey from thy breath;
    We have drunken of things Lethean, and fed on the fullness of death.

    Laurel is green for a season, and love is sweet for a day;
    But love grows bitter with treason, and laurel outlives not May.
    Sleep, shall we sleep after all? For the world is not sweet in the end;
    For the old faiths loosen and fall, the new years ruin and rend.

    Fate is a sea without shore, and the soul is a rock that abides;
    But her ears are vexed with the roar and her face with the foam of the tides.
    O lips that the live blood faints in, the leavings of racks and rods!
    O ghastly glories of saints, dead limbs of gibbeted Gods!

    Though all men abase them before you in spirit, and all knees bend,
    I kneel not neither adore you, but standing, look to the end.
    All delicate days and pleasant, all spirits and sorrows are cast
    Far out with the foam of the present that sweeps to the surf of the past:

    Where beyond the extreme sea-wall, and between the remote sea-gates,
    Waste water washes, and tall ships founder, and deep death waits:
    Where, mighty with deepening sides, clad about with the seas as with wings,
    And impelled of invisible tides, and fulfilled of unspeakable things,

    White-eyed and poisonous-finned, shark-toothed and serpentine-curled,
    Rolls, under the whitening wind of the future, the wave of the world.
    The depths stand naked in sunder behind it, the storms flee away;
    In the hollow before it the thunder is taken and snared as a prey;

    In its sides is the north-wind bound; as its salt is of all men’s tears;
    With light of ruin, and sound of changes, the pulse of the years:
    With travail of day after day, and with trouble of hour upon hour;
    And bitter as blood is the spray; and the crests are as fangs that devour:

    And its vapour and storm of its steam as the sighing of spirits to be;
    And its noise as the noise in a dream; and its depth as the roots of the sea:
    And the height of its heads as the height of the utmost stars of the air:
    And the ends of the earth at the might thereof tremble, and time is made bare.

    Will ye brindle the deep sea with reins, will ye chasten the high sea with rods?
    Will ye take her to chain her with chains, who is older than all ye Gods?
    All ye as a wind shall go by, as a fire shall ye pass and be past;
    Ye are Gods, and beyond, ye shall die, and the waves be upon you at last.

    In the darkness of time, in the deeps of the years, in the changes of things,
    Ye shall sleep as a slain man sleeps, and the world shall forget you for kings.
    Though the feet of thin high priests tread where thy lords and our forefathers trod,
    Though these that were Gods are dead, and thou being dead art a God,

    Though before thee the throned Cytherean be fallen, and hidden her head,
    Yet thy kingdom shall pass, Galilean, thy dead shall go down to thee dead.
    Of the maiden thy mother men sing as a goddess with grace clad around;
    Thou art throned where another was king; where another was queen she is crowned.

    Yea, once we had sight of another: but now she is a queen, say these.
    Not as thine, not as thine was our mother, a blossom of flowering seas,
    Clothed round with the world’s desire as with rainment, and fair as the foam,
    And fleeter than kindled fire, and a goddess, and mother of Rome.

    For thine came pale and a maiden, and sister to sorrow; but ours,
    Her deep hair heavily laden with odour and colour of flowers,
    White rose of the rose-white water, a silver splendour, a flame,
    Bent down unto us that besought her, and the earth grew sweet with her name.

    For thine came weeping, a slave among slaves, and rejected; but she
    Came flushed from the full-flushed wave, and imperial, her foot on the sea.
    And the wonderful waters knew her, the winds and the viewless ways,
    And the roses grew rosier, and the bluer the sky-blue stream of the bays.

    Ye are fallen, our lords, by what token? We wist that ye should not fall.
    Ye were all so fair that are broken; and one more fair than ye all.
    But I turn to her still, having seen she shall surely abide in the end;
    Goddess and maiden and queen, be near me now and befriend.

    O daughter of earth, of my mother, her crown and blossom of birth,
    I am also, I also, thy brother; I go as I came unto earth.
    In the night where thine eyes are as moons are in heaven, in night where thou art,
    Where the silence is more than all tunes, where sleep overflows from the heart,

    Where the poppies are sweet as the rose in our world, and the red rose is white,
    And the wind falls faint as it blows with the fume of the flowers of night,
    And the murmur of spirits that sleep in the shadow of Gods from afar
    Grows dim in thine ears and deep as the deep dim soul of a star,

    In the sweet low light of thy face, under heavens untrod by the sun,
    Let my soul with their souls find place, and forget what is done and undone.
    Thou art more than the Gods who number the days of our temporal breath;
    For these give labour and slumber; but thou, Proserpina, death.

    Therefore now at thy feet I abide for a season in silence, I know
    I shall die as my fathers died, and sleep as they sleep; even so.
    For the glass of the years is brittle wherein we gaze for a span;
    A little soul for a little bears up this corpse which is man.

    So long I endure, no longer; and laugh not again, neither weep.
    For there is no God found stronger than death; and death is a sleep.
     
  9. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

    I have many (English degree at all...) but as I get older the following always seems to make more sense:

    "I like spring, but it is too young. I like summer, but it is too proud. So I like best of all autumn, because its leaves are
    a little yellow, its tones mellower, its colors richer, and it is tinged a little with sorrow. Its golden richness speaks not
    of the innocence of spring, nor of the power of summer, but
    of the mellowness and kindly wisdom of approaching age.
    It knows the limitations of life and is content."

    Lin Yutang
     
  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Little fly, thy summer's play
    My thoughtless hand has brushed away.
    Am not I a fly like thee,
    Or art not thou a man like me?
    For I dance and drink and sing,
    'Til some blind hand might brush my wing.
    If thought is life, and strength, and breath,
    And the want of thought is death,
    Then am I a happy fly
    If I live or if I die.

    -- William Blake
     
  11. 3$bill

    3$bill New Member

    Some summer haiku

    For Jack Tracey and whoever wishes:

    In the fisherman's house
    the smell of dried fish--
    oh, the heat!

    --Shiki


    The big cat
    flopped asleep
    on the fan.

    --Issa


    A mid-day nap
    propping his elbow
    on the abacus.

    --Issa


    Alone
    in the editorial department
    summer rain falling

    --Shiki


    The Great Gate of the temple;
    through the midst of the rice field
    an avenue of pine trees.

    --Shiki


    The temple Buddhas--
    in the distance
    the summer sea.

    --Shiki


    The short night--
    on the hairs of the caterpillar
    beads of dew.

    --Buson


    Plates and bowls
    faintly in the twilight--
    the evening cool.

    --Basho


    (Translations adapted from R. H. Blyth, Haiku Volume 3 Summer-Autumn, Hokuseido, Tokyo.
     
  12. 3$bill

    3$bill New Member

    "The old pond full of flags and fenced around..."

    ['Flags' are rushes; 'pinks' are chaffinches.]

    The old pond full of flags and fenced around
    With trees and bushes trailing to the ground
    The water weeds are all around the brink
    And one clear place where cattle go to drink
    From year to year the schoolboy thither steals
    And muddys round the place to catch the eels
    The cow-boy often hiding from the flies
    Lies there and plaits the rushcaps as he lies
    The hissing owl sits moping all the day
    And hears his song and never flies away
    The pinks nest hangs upon the branch so thin
    The young ones caw and seem as tumbling in
    While round them thrums the purple dragon flye
    And great white butter flye goes dancing bye

    --John Clare
     
  13. RobbCD

    RobbCD New Member

    In the desert
    I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
    Who, squatting upon the ground,
    Held his heart in his hands,
    And ate of it.
    I said, "Is it good, friend?"
    "It is bitter—bitter," he answered;
    "But I like it
    "Because it is bitter,
    "And because it is my heart."

    —Stepen Crane
     
  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Another haiku:

    The big degree mill
    Busted by the feds at last
    Their fraud has ended

    -=Steve=-
     
  15. Jake_A

    Jake_A New Member

    A most gratifying thread! Thanks, Uncle!

    One of several hands down winners, for me, is James Leigh Hunt's "Abou Ben Adhem."

    Against the backdrop of today's envelope of terror and fear, competing (or synergistic) world religions and the endless search for global brother/sisterhood, this poem rings beautiful and true.

    For the (Abou) child in all of us ......
     
  16. Jake_A

    Jake_A New Member

    Abou Ben Adhem

    Abou Ben Adhem (may his tribe increase!)
    Awoke one night from a deep dream of peace,
    And saw, within the moonlight in his room,
    Making it rich, and like a lily in bloom,
    An Angel writing in a book of gold:

    Exceeding peace had made Ben Adhem bold,
    And to the Presence in the room he said,
    "What writest thou?" The Vision raised its head,
    And with a look made of all sweet accord
    Answered, "The names of those who love the Lord."

    "And is mine one?" said Abou. "Nay, not so,"
    Replied the Angel. Abou spoke more low,
    But cheerily still; and said, "I pray thee, then,
    Write me as one who loves his fellow men."

    The Angel wrote, and vanished. The next night
    It came again with a great wakening light,
    And showed the names whom love of God had blessed,
    And, lo! Ben Adhem's name led all the rest!

    -- James Leigh Hunt
     
  17. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    SAY not the struggle naught availeth,
    The labour and the wounds are vain,
    The enemy faints not, nor faileth,
    And as things have been they remain.

    If hopes were dupes, fears may be liars;
    It may be, in yon smoke conceal'd,
    Your comrades chase e'en now the fliers,
    And, but for you, possess the field.

    For while the tired waves, vainly breaking,
    Seem here no painful inch to gain,
    Far back, through creeks and inlets making,
    Comes silent, flooding in, the main.

    And not by eastern windows only,
    When daylight comes, comes in the light;
    In front the sun climbs slow, how slowly!
    But westward, look, the land is bright!

    --Clough

    Also: anything by Donne or Milosz (sorry no l/) or the magnificent and neglected Johannes Bobrowski.

    And, of course, by Kipling:

    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
    But make allowance for their doubting too,
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
    Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

    If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
    If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breathe a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
    If all men count with you, but none too much,
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
    Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
    And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!


    --Rudyard Kipling
     
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  18. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Czeslaw, not Oscar. Oscar Milosz/Oskaras Milasius is a bit too hermetic for my poetic tastes--but he was a great and noble man of letters and a worthy diplomat for the second (1918-1940) Lithuanian Republic.

    This, too, by Tennyson (most of it, anyway):

    Strong Son of God, immortal Love,
    Whom we, that have not seen thy face,
    By faith, and faith alone, embrace,
    Believing where we cannot prove;

    Thine are these orbs of light and shade;
    Thou madest Life in man and brute;
    Thou madest Death; and lo, thy foot
    Is on the skull which thou hast made.

    Thou wilt not leave us in the dust:
    Thou madest man, he knows not why,
    He thinks he was not made to die;
    And thou hast made him: thou art just.

    Thou seemest human and divine,
    The highest, holiest manhood, thou.
    Our wills are ours, we know not how;
    Our wills are ours, to make them thine.

    Our little systems have their day;
    They have their day and cease to be:
    They are but broken lights of thee,
    And thou, O Lord, art more than they.

    We have but faith: we cannot know;
    For knowledge is of things we see;
    And yet we trust it comes from thee,
    A beam in darkness: let it grow.

    Let knowledge grow from more to more,
    But more of reverence in us dwell;
    That mind and soul, according well,
    May make one music as before,

    But vaster. We are fools and slight;
    We mock thee when we do not fear:
    But help thy foolish ones to bear;
    Help thy vain worlds to bear thy light.

    Forgive what seem’d my sin in me;
    What seem’d my worth since I began;
    For merit lives from man to man,
    And not from man, O Lord, to thee.

    Forgive my grief for one removed,
    Thy creature, whom I found so fair.
    I trust he lives in thee, and there
    I find him worthier to be loved.

    Forgive these wild and wandering cries,
    Confusions of a wasted youth;
    Forgive them where they fail in truth,
    And in thy wisdom make me wise.
     
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  19. dcv

    dcv New Member

    The Chambered Nautilus
    By Oliver Wendell Holmes

    This is the ship of pearl, which, poets feign,
    Sails the unshadowed main,--
    The venturous bark that flings
    On the sweet summer wind its purpled wings
    In gulfs enchanted, where the Siren sings,
    And coral reefs lie bare,
    Where the cold sea-maids rise to sun their streaming hair.

    Its webs of living gauze no more unfurl;
    Wrecked is the ship of pearl!
    And every chambered cell,
    Where its dim dreaming life was wont to dwell,
    As the frail tenant shaped his growing shell,
    Before thee lies revealed,--
    Its irised ceiling rent, its sunless crypt unsealed!

    Year after year beheld the silent toil
    That spread his lustrous coil;
    Still, as the spiral grew,
    He left the past year's dwelling for the new,
    Stole with soft step its shining archway through,
    Built up its idle door,
    Stretched in his last-found home, and knew the old no more.

    Thanks for the heavenly message brought by thee,
    Child of the wandering sea,
    Cast from her lap, forlorn!
    From thy dead lips a clearer note is born
    Than ever Triton blew from wreathèd horn!
    While on mine ear it rings,
    Through the deep caves of thought I hear a voice that sings:

    Build thee more stately mansions, O my soul,
    As the swift seasons roll!
    Leave thy low-vaulted past!
    Let each new temple, nobler than the last,
    Shut thee from heaven with a dome more vast,
    Till thou at length art free,
    Leaving thine outgrown shell by life's unresting sea!
     
  20. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Hard to beat Edgar Allan Poe's beautiful Annabel Lee and his haunting The Raven.

    Both are simply classic pieces of literature.

    Best secular book ever written is Nathaniel Hawthrone's The Scarlet Letter.





     

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