Here's one we haven't heard of...

Here's one I've come across that I can't recall ever havning been mentioned on DegreeInfo before. If I have. please excuse me.

I read through their website and could go on & on about my thoughts, but first, I'd like to see what some of our local experts have to say.

Flamel College "Instruction in the Esoteric Arts and Hermetic Sciences"

www.flamelcollege.org

 

"Esoteric Arts" and "Hermetic Sciences."

Stop and think about that for a second.

Oy.

 

He who knows does not say and he who says does not know.

 

They apparently do not have recognized acceditation & no street address. BBB report says the business also operates under "ETX Seminars".

 

Oh, I didn't know you were asking about whether or not they were accredited. And the answer to that: OF COURSE NOT, FOR GODSAKE!

 

I have mixed feelings about this.

They don't seem to offer any degrees, just individual classes and certificate programs. Given that fact, accreditation is kind of unnecessary and irrelevant.

http://www.flamelcollege.org/programs.htm

There are many fascinating non-degree-granting DL opportunities out there. That's where much of my own interest is directed at the moment.

A upside (at least in my eyes) is their link to the University of Philosophical Research, one of the CA-approved schools that I'm rather fond of.

But a serious downside is their link to Canyon College's doctor of naturopathy program. Canyon's a school that I definitely don't like.

I like the invocation of Nicholas Flamel, frankly, and the fact that the school addresses the Western esoteric traditions. But I don't like their scatter-gun approach and the large amount of new-age fluff. They really need to focus, to penetrate into fewer things more deeply.

I like the fact that they offer free classes, but I have no way of knowing how valuable they might be.

All in all, Flamel seems well-intentioned but kind of amateurish.

 

About Nicholas Flamel

See also these search results.

 

Having an avid interest in the paranormal I have completed two courses through Flamel and am working on a third. The text to the paranormal investigator could've been much better and I supplemented it with books by Loyd Auerbach.

The EVP program was quite informative and focused primarily on the history of EVP, but there are some solid tips to capture EVP/ITC. I, again, supplmented that course with "There Is No Death & There Are No Dead" by Tom & Lisa Butler (Co-Directors of the American Association of Electronic Voice Phenomena.

The parapsychology program, thus far, is very informative though I haven't proceeded too far in the program at the present time.

I've found the programs to be quite informative and fun. My instructor (Dennis William Hauck has been my instructor for all three programs) was/has been quite helpful.

I must say though that the course I've taken through the International Ghost Hunters Society was much more informative and detailed.

 

Faculty page

Dominick Flarey, also president of Breyer State.

 

That is one interesting place. Alchemy?? mmmmmm

 

A mystical art with interesting iconography. The wonderfully named scientist, Auroleus Phillipus Theostratus Bombastus von Hohenheim, was as well, the alchemist, Paracelsus.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/paracelsus/paracelsus_1.html

 

Not to mention an apparent affiliation with Canyon College.

 

Re: Faculty page

And also Dean of Nursing and Alternative Health Care Programs at the equally-dubious Canyon College in Idaho.

Oy.


EDIT: Oh... I see that JamesK and I posted roughly the same thing at roughly the same time. Great minds think alike, eh?

 

Thanks -- I teach chemistry so I did know what alchemy is. It was the legitimacy of coursework in Alchemy I was mmmmmming over

Seems like a degree in a real science would be more beneficial. Although, some pretty big names tinkered with alchemy (like Newton and Boyle).

 

You've gotta be kidding....

International Ghost Hunters Society... uh huh. Yeah right.

My God! Can we get some religious posters back out here? At least they have some historical basis for their mythology!

I can't believe what people are willing to waste their time and money on these days..... What's next? Fairy hunting?

Have you found any good ghosts yet?

 

Carl,

What's the big deal? I do this as a hobby. Would you say the same thing about coin collecting? I doubt it.

So what if some people don't believe in ghosts? So what if millions believe in a God that they have never seen. So, what if someone likes gardening?

Personally, I hate gardening, but I most certainly would NOT poke fun at one who does by saying "My gosh! I can't believe "Joe" would spend 30 bucks on a new garden hose! That's so stupid!" Some people like like gardening. I like studying and researching the paranormal.

I fail to see the big deal.

 

Boo!

 

Re: You've gotta be kidding....

This exchange interests me, no so much because I think that either Carl or 'Nova is right or wrong (although, of the two positions, I lean toward Carl's... but I still respect 'Nova's, too), but because of the inherent conflict that many Christians see between paranormal stuff, just generally, and Christianity. Knowing that 'Nova is a Christian -- though I'm not sure of precisely what denomination (if any), or how deep are his convictions -- I'm curious if he sees any conflict. I have had more than one Christian (of which I'm one, by the way) tell me -- in some cases, stridently -- that believing in such things as reincarnation, or paranormal/spiritual stuff is simply incompatible with biblical teaching; and that when, for example, a psychic claims to be communicating with the spirit of a person who has passed on, said person either didn't make it to heaven and is, in fact, in hell; or said person did make it to heaven, and so the entity that the psychic is actually communicating with is Satan or one of his minions masquerading as the departed person with whom said psychic only thinks s/he is communicating (the rationale behind this being that, according to the bible, one goes to heaven more or less immediately after one dies and, therefore, could not possibly still be hangin' around in a place where one could be communicating with a psychic, or observable as a ghost, unless one hadn't made it).

It would be interesting to read 'Nova's take on that -- if he even has one (and it's okay if he doesn't, by the way... there's nothing wrong with simply having no opinion on something) -- and/or anyone else's, here.

 

I'll try to keep this brief so as to not stir up too many nerves and, too, because there is a lot of conflicting information and beliefs amongst paranormal researchers.

Christians believe the The Father, The Son, & and the Holy SPIRIT. I emphasize spirit for the following reasons: (This being spoken from a Paranormal Research perspective) Apparaitions are a central focus in understanding the concept of "survival". An apparation is what is felt, heard, seen, or smelled representing that part of the human personality that can somehow exist in our physical universe after the death of a person's body (i.e. The resurrection some would say). An appartion is a person's personality - the SPIRIT, soul, consciousness, mind, or whatever you wish you call it that survives the death of the body. It is capable of interacting with living (and perhaps other apparitions).

I could go on & on, but everything I've said is based on my own research and reading. I have a feeling, though, that fireworks about about to fly.

To let you form your own opinion (which you are fully entitled to) please click on the below. I went to Google and typed in: bible ghosts

With all respect,

 

Well... let's just hold on, now, everyone, and try not to let that happen. This could get interesting if we can keep it in the spirit (no pun intended) of learning and respectable debate, etc. So far, 'Nova's posted a good and thoughtful response. Let's try to maintain that sort of tone.

I see. Interesting. Okay, then, so... if the "spirit, soul, consciousness, mind or whatever you wish to call it" survives the death of the body and is capable of interacting with the living (and perhaps other apparitions), then what part is it that goes to heaven (or hell, as the case may be)?

And, since you opened with a reference to it, just help me understand: Are those who are into paranormal stuff saying that the Holy Spirit is little more than an apparition? Or is that an oversimplification or just a flat-out misreading/misunderstanding of the reason you referenced it as a build-up to explaining the whole apparition thing?

Also, does the "spirit, soul, consciousness, mind or whatever you wish to call it" have mass? I'm referring to those who, as an experiment, and with the consent of the soon-to-be-departed, are said to have placed the body of said soon-to-be-departed onto an extremely sensitive scale (the platform of which is the size of a typical hospital bed so that the body of the soon-to-be-departed will fit thereon and s/he will be comfortable); and then it was observed that at the precise moment of death, the weight of the body lightened by a tiny amount... either a few ounces or a fraction of an ounce, I can no longer remember.

Finally, if th "spirit, soul, consciousness, mind or whatever you wish to call it" is to be differentiated from what goes to heaven; and if the answer to the "does it have mass" question is "yes," then does the part that goes to heaven have mass as well?

Strange questions, I realize it may seem, but I have reasons for asking. I'm curious, 'Nova (or anyone else who's kinda' into it), what the answers might be.