NJEA spokesman calls UOP a diploma mill

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  1. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    http://tinyurl.com/6q32c

    NJEA spokesman Steve Wollmer ...."That's why we've raised concerns that this is nothing more than a high-class diploma mill," Wollmer said.

    Cheers,

    George
     
  2. agingBetter

    agingBetter New Member

    Could it be that the New Jersey teachers do not want more competition for jobs?

    If University of Phoenix is effective, they could get permission to train future teachers. The hardest part of qualifying to be a K-12 teacher is getting the practicums and special courses needed. Having a good evening program could remove a lot of the red tape.

    Of course, I know nothing about what qualifies one to become a teacher.
     
  3. jugador

    jugador New Member

    Ouch! I wonder if he or the State of New Jersey will be liable for the damages to follow.
     
  4. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

  5. oko

    oko New Member

    This is nothing new. NJEA has been against UoP for a long time. They fear competition. They have no basis for their statements about UoP.

    Oko
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Hey, at least UoP is "high class"! ;)

    New Jersey has fought tooth-and-nail to keep UoP out. They limited UoP to undergraduate programs. They required UoP to have a significant number of full-time faculty. They required that students' learning teams meet on campus, and that those meetings be supervised by faculty. (This last one violates the very basis for UoP, BTW.) And they required UoP to pony up a significant number of dollars towards the state-run universities' libraries, as if UoP students were going to use them! (UoP has an immense online library with millions of full-text articles.)

    Is it a surprise that the NJEA, essentially a teachers' guild, would be resistant to anything nontraditional? I hope they pay for their loose-lipped representative. Oh, and I hope--out of fairness--they make similar comments about New Jersey's own nontraditional school, TESC, which looks even more different than UoP when compared to traditional programs. Oh, brother....:rolleyes:
     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Guess the NJEA is the East Coast counterpart to the ODA! :D

    Seriously, I lived in NJ (Elizabeth) in my youth and I hated the whole state!

    In my opinion the only thing NJ has going for it are Joe Clark, Christie Todd Whitman, and Bill Bradley.
     
  8. I want to know, ever since the universities are market – company – Juridical Persons

    The same person or group owns all the university grounds of UoP, or some campuses are franchises that some person buy, and only follows the regulations of the principal center?


    :confused:
     
  9. stock

    stock New Member

    Shows how effective UoP has been.. !!!
     
  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This information is available with just a little research.

    UoP is owned by the Apollo Group. The Apollo Group is a publicly traded corporation, owned by its stockholders. There are no franchises.
     
  11. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I am sure after a number of years UOP will be a respected institution of higher learning.

    Haven't we read on there that a number of schools not well thought of initially are now well respected?

    I may be wrong but I believe Touro, Union, Capella, Walden, Luther Rice and a number of others were mentioned as some of these.
     
  12. jayncali73

    jayncali73 New Member

    I think some traditional B&M schools are jealous of UoP because of the competition. I may be wrong?
     
  13. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Another example that "diploma mill" doesn't have a fixed qualitative definition.
     
  14. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Yeah, especially in a state that recently displayed the ridiculous Mr McGreevey (an NJEA fave) and long since inflicted on the rest of the world the unspeakable Dr Wilson, may he rot in pieces.
     
  15. The expressions of the FATUUS Wollmer are absolutely

    FALSUS IN OMNIBUS
     

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