Question for Bill Grover and Unk

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  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    What do either or both you you know about the Barnes Notes on the Old and New Testaments, 14 Volumes?

    These normally retail for $750 but they are being offered for only $74.99 through a national bookstore.

    Thanks!
     
  2. mhl

    mhl New Member

    I'll leave comments regarding the relative value of Barnes Notes to Bill & Uncle Janko.

    But just in case you might be interested, if you use the free e-Sword Bible software program (www.e-sword.net), you can download Barnes Notes on both the Old & New Tesaments as an add-in module for free.

    Personally, I like FREE a lot better than $74.99!

    Just wanted to let you know...

    God bless!

    Mark
     
  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Thanks Mark. I would still like Bill and/or Unk to comment on their views re Barnes.

     
  4. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    I used to have Barnes on the NT but I gave it away either to the college or to a pastor friend. It was not valuable to me.
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Thanks! The reason I asked is that should I decide to enroll at Temple I will need a good set of commentaries and a good systematic theology book that reflect Temple's theology.

    Any recommendations?
     
  6. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    Good commentaries for scholarly study seldom come in sets and less seldom by one author. Probably each class will have required and recommended texts. I am a Conservative Baptist and like these systematics although I agree wholly with none: Erickson (Baptist) , Grudem, Reymond, Hodge, Shedd (all Reformed) , Barth(Neo Orthodox) , Wiley, Miley (arminian--yes they write too) , Pieper (Lutheran). For commentaries I like: Word;NIGTC;NICNT;ICC;EGT.
     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Thanks. I have a number of systematic theology books and commentaries (none of which you mention) but just wanted your opinion since you are Baptist.

    Of what I have, my favorite one-volume commentary is The New Jerome Biblical Commentary.
     
  8. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Jimmy, I liked the Barnes commentaries at one time, but it's been well over 25 years since I used them.

    My suggestion: Call the librarian (not the bookstore) at TTU and find out what their perspective is on the Barnes. You'll find that most major commentary sets are available through CBD or similar distributors at cheaper prices.
     
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Thanks. I will call the librarian Monday. I get the CBD catalogs and that's where I saw the 14-volume Barnes set for $74.99.

    I used to have Matthew Henry's but gave them away when I was caught up in moderate-liberal theology and rid my library of anything not in that genre.
     
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Indeed, and CBD is an excellent company to do business with. However, I'm not sure as to the status of CBD's accreditation. ;)
     
  11. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I have purchased a few items with them and have been pleased.

    What I would really like to have is this set.
     
  12. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Hi Jimmy:

    Barnes is New School Presbyterian from the 1800's. Other than that I know nothing about him.

    For sets I use (big surprise) Keil und Delitzsch on OT and Lenski on NT. [Warning: Lenski is heterodox on election, espousing that intuitu fidei crap.]

    Here is an invaluable reference on commentaries (that is, a guide to spending too much money on books):

    John Glynn, Commentary and Reference Survey. 9th ed. Kregel Publications 2003

    There are also similar books by Frederick Danker, Tremper Longman, and D.A. Carson.

    I have a fundy oops funny feeling that the New Jerome won't be on the hit parade at TTU. (I had Joe Fitzmyer autograph my copy for some reason.)

    Janko
     
  13. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    Are you talking about Dehoff's?

    I remember my dad always like him. We had his Bible handbook and I noticed that it was almost word for word Halleys. Inferences and all made by Halley were included in Dehoffs. I think he might have "restorationed" it up a little, but thats all. funny.

    clint
     
  14. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    I looked at the OVC site.

    Puppet ministry.

    Puppet ministry?

    I wonder what Alexander Campbell would have thought of that?

    Well, no, I think I have a pretty good idea.

    I'm with Mr Campbell on this one.
     
  15. Guest

    Guest Guest

    No, I was speaking of the College Press set.
     
  16. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Yea, with the possbile exeption of the a capella churches of Christ, I don't think Campbell would recognize too much in the Restoration churches today.

    I am currently reading his memoirs and have gained a new appreciation for him.
     
  17. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    No doubt...but even the "mainstream" a capella CoC would be different for him, I think. Maybe some of the REALLY REALLY ultra-traditionalist ones...

    I always like Barton Stone better than Campbell, though no doubt, Campbell was more influential in the movement.

    clint
     
  18. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Barton Warren Stone is my favorite Restoration figure also.

    It's sad that so many others like Isaac V. Smith, John Chapman, John L. Puckett, James O' Kelly, Abner Jones, "Racoon" John Smith, Elias Smith, and others don't get much attention when discussing the Restoration Movement. On the other hand, I am glad many in the movement, like James D. Bales, have been virtually forgotten. Bales was a right-winged political extremist.

    He wrote a book about Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., that was less than kind calling him an apostate, an agitator, and an anarchist. The book was published by Christian Crusade run by that fanatical right-winged nut Billy James Hargis.
     
  19. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I seriously doubt it too unless it can be used for comparisons and contrasts with other commentaries.

    I like it because it has a wonderful depth of scholarship and Fitzmyer is, at least in my opinion, a scholastic giant. His knowlede of the Biblical languages is superb and he is a master of the Aramaic language. One of the other editors, Raymond Brown, is no academic slouch either.

    Nice you had Fitzmyer sign your copy. I had a letter from him regarding the Aramaic but lost it.

    But, I still have my letter from J. Edgar Hoover, signed and all. Lucky me. :rolleyes:
     
  20. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    I agree, there were many interesting people that we tend to neglect. Of course, there are many that we would be better off to forget (such as Daniel Sommer).

    I don't remember that particular book by Bales, but I do know that he was by no means at the EXTREME right, because he was attacked from that direction by Thomas Warren over the divorce/remarriage question.

    clint
     

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