Fake or truly fake?

I find some ideas funny when talking about fake degrees. Would you think that people that hold real degrees from real schools are all good? That's just a crock of shit.

I have some friends, very intelligent and hard but very poor, who want to go to school but cannot. They try to buy a degree to color their job application. You know, they have a great knowledge of their major thanks to self study.

Now they're excellent employees of some companies, much better than those with real degrees but all stupid.

People with fake ones are not always fake. But people with real ones may have fake knowledge, which is a great harm to our country.

Are you sure that U.S accredited schools are good? Dream about it! I used to study at Standford, which I really admire. But I can list tons of accredited schools that are legally operating but providing fake courses with fake knowledge.

What do you think?

 

Did you transfer to Harvdard?

 

Jack Smith: "I can list tons of accredited schools that are legally operating but providing fake courses with fake knowledge."

John Bear: For starters, why don't you list three, with some supporting evidence. Thanks.

 

Jacksmith commits a fallacy common on this board among those who would defend fake schools: he confuses knowledge with a degree.

Anyone with collegiate-level knowledge can get credit for it. Anyone with sufficient credits can get a degree. Therefore, the dilemma he poses is a false one.

Finally, he confuses job competency with education. They are different. Rationalizing the purchase of a degree from a diploma mill by pointing the purchaser's job competence is, well, silly. And disingenuous.

 

UDP faute d'orthographe

Isn't that one of the University Degree Program clones, featuring "Cardiopulmonary Sciences" and a president who can't sort out "who" from "whom?"

Those with degrees from a certain east coast school might refer to Standford as the Cormell of the west.

G

 

Since I claim to have studied at Berkley University, I wouldn't blame people in the least if they doubted my word simply because I didn't know the proper spelling of the school. I distinctly remember (many years ago) an instructor or counselor at Berkly warning me of this potential problem. I guess that this is just further evidence that Standford is inferior to Berkley.

 

Perhaps not, but they are DISHONEST. They aren't some one I would want to hire in any case.

 

Please see definition of the word berk: http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn?stage=1&word=berk .

 

The correct spellings is "Hahvahd".

 

"spelling" not "spellings".

 

there are race car drivers without a driving license & nobody could challenge their driving skills.
To build (legally) a house you need permits of many kinds.
Sure there ARE people who build houses without them & sure -who knows- those buildings might be even better and they too have the "right" to a shelter .
when entering an ER, who knows, i might know the exact precedures & moves to save someone's life...
HOWEVER
the point here is the LEGAL status: i wouldn't be LEGALLY allowed to treat people in an ER and so forth.
Of course even an illegally procured car may get you to where you want to go, but that's NOT the point.

 

Fake Truth!

Greatly appreciate your ideas. Hope that in this forum, we can share better ideas.

First, if someone claims to need some supporting evidence of bad quality accredited schools, he or she can see clearly through the number of students who can find a good job after graduation. (I think you can find this easily!!). Then you can look at how many students like to study at that school and then look at what international prizes or the like that school obtains. I'm sure you can check easily.

Could you find tons of schools as I said?

How many people in the world sometimes write his school name wrong? Those who take this mistake seriously are just uselessly finding fault with.

Due to competition, many schools have to lower their admission requirements or provide more support to lure students (you know a school is also a company), especially private schools. They are still true schools but do they look like degree mills?

There's an interconnection between a degree one holds and his education though many deny it. Look at the degree one holds, anyone may tell that he or she is good or bad before looking at his or her real ability.

Someone in this forum said that "those who hold a fake one are dishonest". Are you really honest? Many get a fake not to cheat their boss but to prove with hope that they do have a good level. Some get it just to show off. This is not bad.

The bad thing about fakes is they are illegal, which brings profit to sellers. I think buyers should not be to claim.

Why do we have degree mills? because many people cannot afford a formal education. That's all.

I personally don't support degree mills and buyers but what I want to state here is that buyers make no mistakes. Why G.Bush can attack Iraq and why can't people buy fakes?

It would be quite wrong to use accreditation as a tool to declare a school to be of good quality.

Don't use baby reasoning like political analysts to make wide guesses about the election!

Welcome your ideas!

JackSmith

 

Thanks!

You can find yourself. Do you think I will teach such a PhD to do such a simple thing?

I wish I could have a chance to read your research about degree mills. I think you can sell like hot cakes. But please don't use fake statistics or fake comments or you yourself must buy some to enclose in your book??

 

Re: Thanks!

AOOOGAAAAH! AOOOGAAAAH! AOOOGAAAAH! AOOOGAAAAH!

Uh oh, the shill alarm is sounding!

So, Jacksmith, we are to assume that you cannot even name three of the "tons of accredited schools..." that are "providing fake courses..."

Please document your assertions.

G

 

Re: Thanks!

I can certainly see why a "Standford" graduate's time is too valuable to back up any of the false arguments he made! LOL!

 

sure there will always be prejudice against this or that form of education and-or way to get it.
it's like army tales.
there WILL ALWAYS BE THE ONE CLAIMING "TRUE MEN" come only from the navy, infantry, etc etc, while others are "pussies".
however both the navy, infantry etc are REAL & LEGAL army corps.
You cannot mix that consideration with the one dealing with people who never served in any army, yet buy some fake "marine's ID " to pose as "badasses"

 

If any of you tire of prestigious Standford University, there's an assortment of Stamford Universities to choose from.

The mysterious Stamford University of Bangladesh, complete with Stamford Medical Center:

http://www.stamforduniversity.info/

Or Stamford International University of Bankok Thailand (or China or someplace):

http://www.stamford.edu

 

Don't Let Annoying Things Like Reality Hold You Back

I'm rather impressed by the fact that Standford University doesn't it's failure to exist keep it from having a much stronger Google footprint than Knightsbridge or Saint Regis:

President of Standford University speaks at Peking University:

http://ennews.pku.edu.cn/news.php?s=85989236

A computer science paper presented at a conference by Standford authors:

http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=224397

McGill University hires a professor with a degree from Standford:

http://www.academic.mcgill.ca/newfac/profiles/2003/by-name/mortensen.htm

Link to a population genetics and evolutionary biology lab at Standford:

http://www.lf2.cuni.cz/Projekty/med_res/p4-0.htm

Standford University's Knowledge Systems Laboratory:

http://www.aldea.com/guides/ag/b721ud.html

A 1996 asynchronous distance education experiment at Standford University:

http://mail.canarie.ca/MLISTS/news/0175.html

Something about Standford University Press on an Italian website:

http://esbn.burioni.it/2004/200403/200403_02.html

Health Plan webpage for employees of Standford University:

http://www.pacificare.com/stanford

An executive at an Iranian chemical company brags about his Standford doctorate:

http://www.nipc.net/npcnews/news25/spot.htm

Standford professor on the advisory board of IMPI Business School (whatever that is):

http://www.ipmimba.ac.id/intadv.html

Standford professor at a conference in Denmark (nobody from Knightsbridge attended):

http://w78.civil.auc.dk/participants_ws/denmark_2002/participants.html

... and many more.

 

Re: Thanks!

Yeah, use none instead (as you do).

Don't teach John, the Ph.D. Teach everyone. Which schools did you have in mind and why? Absent that, we can safely dismiss your statement as unsupported and, therefore, false.

 

Re: Fake Truth!

Most of your arguments don't even make sense, Mr. Smith. What does George W. Bush attacking Iraq have to do with buying fake degrees?

The arguments that I can make sense out of are false and you refuse to provide a shred of supporting evidence to support your false arguments.