"The candidate with the traditional degree will likely win out"

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  1. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Superstitions about quality of education are slow to change. Is a Harvard MBA really twice as good an education as an MBA from the University of New Mexico? I doubt it; yet the Harvard grad will likely be w-a-a-a-y ahead in the salary game. Why? Because it's HARVARD we're talking about here.
     
  3. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    Some perceptions of quality are superstition, others are not. As for Harvard grads, there are some arguments in their favor. For one, Harvard (Business School or Undergrad) admissions are extremely competitive. They get very bright students coming in - which has a real influence on the quality of their grads. As one of my grad profs put it "Harvard could teach voodoo for two years and they'd still have successful grads - they're that smart". And many of their students are well connected.

    Like it or not, Harvard grads do have a let up in the world.

    Regards - Andy


     
  4. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    A fair statement. But the virtue is in the STUDENT, not the SCHOOL.
     
  5. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    There are also plenty of brilliant students out there who cannot afford the tuition fees of a school like Harvard or Yale. True, they do admit the brightest, but those who are admitted are also the richest.
     
  6. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    You know... you would think D/L degree holders would be the loudest voices calling for the kind of thing Oregon is attempting (but which it isn't doing very well quite yet... but will, eventually, I'm certain).

    When the day comes that a typical H/R person may conclude that a degree listed on a resume is probably legit because the penalties if it's not would just be too "not worth it" for the candidate, then most H/R people wouldn't even discover that it's a D/L degree because they wouldn't even bother to look it up anywhere.

    Anyway... why is anyone telling H/R people or others that their degrees are D/L in the first place? Of course it can be intuited by any H/R/ person who bothers to compare home addresses with school addresses for given periods of time; but except for something like that, why is the subject even coming up in most situations? It's certainly not required of anyone that they disclose on their resume or even their CV that their degree is D/L. So why is this such a problem? And if it becomes one, does not the D/L degree's regional-accreditation pretty much end the discussion? Or, at least, shouldn't it?
     
  7. Rich Hartel

    Rich Hartel New Member

    Yes, Havard grads do have the upper hand and admissions is very competitive, and another reason for this is because Harvard has, I believe, a 100 to 150 year head start over most colleges in this country to have developed a reputation of their programs!

    Rich Hartel
     
  8. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Sometimes it's amusing to ask people, both civilians and professional academics, which school has a better program in subject XYZ, University A (name a low prestige school) or Harvard. Then choose subject XYZ to be a subject that Harvard doesn't even offer but where the low prestige school is particularly strong.

    I've found that people often say "Harvard" without hesitation, even though the answer is demonstrably ridiculous.

    (Here's) a community college that offers a stronger program than Harvard in a particular field where it's cookin'.
     
  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Oh, I'm SURE Harvard's program is better...the animals came over on the Mayflower, you know...
     
  10. mrw142

    mrw142 New Member

    I've heard the same thing with regard to Princeton's esteemed phantom Law School--quite a program!
     

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