Legally value of Apostilles and Certifications of the US Government

Hello friends, sorry about my English.

In relation to the Apostilles:
Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof. Article IV Section 1. (US Constitution)

Moreover, the Congress passes this legal information
“The records and judicial proceedings of any court of any such State, Territory or Possession, or copies thereof, shall be proved or admitted in other courts within the United States and its Territories and Possessions by the attestation of the clerk and seal of the court annexed, if a seal exists, together with a certificate of a judge of the court that the said attestation is in proper form.

Such Acts, records and judicial proceedings or copies thereof, so authenticated, shall have the same full faith and credit in every court within the United States and its Territories and Possessions as they have by law or usage in the courts of such State, Territory or Possession from which they are taken” (28 U.S.C.A. sec. 1738 (1948).

Remember this is a legal notarized declaration. You can put everything. You can put that you are the new Governor etc.

HOWEVER, if you tried to use that in Court, in a legal processes, and that information is false or you know that is false. Oh boy, that is perjury. In P.R. you get 10 years of Jail.

So, if you have a false statement in an Apostille, don’t used.

 

Mr. Police:

You seem awfully wrapped up in the legality of degrees and proving that if it is legal it is good. Perhaps on this Day of Atonement a bible verse might help.

No one has every said that any of your degrees are not fully and completely legal. They are.

Due to the convoluted nature of the US academic scene, it is possible to have a totally legal and valid degree that meets every test known to the US legal system as it its legality, yet at the same time does not have much value.

I must caution all unaccredited (and unfortunately some NA) degree holders to be prepared to be as John the Baptist:

For the US system, while there are loop holes (albeit tiny ones), looks down on the holders of these degrees.

In addition, as the entire DL market grows, the cost distinction is shrinking (and yes $5000 is 5 times larger than $1000, but in comparison to $30,000 the difference is small.

Good luck with your degree, but if you have any problems with it in the future do not blame the information you received here.

 

Hello friends, sorry about my English.

Hey Mike, I respect the religion thing, so, I do not make comments about that.

But remember, you can practice your religion because we have this LEGAL statements of ours fathers; “freedom of speech” (Amendment I US Constitution)

And that the “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” (Amendment I US Constitution)

 

Hi Police,

This is an honest question and I am not having a dig at you, OK?

Did you write your PhD thesis in your native language or English? What is your native tongue by the way?

Cheers,

George

 

I think PWU does Spanish, does it not?

 

In Spanish. Español mi amigo George Brown

 

Lo, he waxeth pleonastic, and doth harp.

 

I have an acquaintance (a former police chief) who received a PWU doctorate after completing BA and MA degrees as RA universities. The PWU doctorate was absolutely a legal degree, however, he never represented it at accredited or equivalent to an RA degree. It was done primarily for personal satisfaction, since his field does not require advanced academic degrees.

An apostille says nothing about the academic quality or usefulness of a degree. It is a notarization, nothing more.

Tony Piña
Faculty, California State U. San Bernardino

 

Ah, ha! Muchas grassy arse!!!

Merci,

George

 

Do you Ozzies butcher pretty much every language you come in contact with.

 

oh no, we do that in Texas too... glad to see that its spreading....

 

Sort of an amBush.

 

Wots the matta Dennis? Do ya wanna fork with me???

Cheers,

George

 

I'm not sure??

Maybe if you put on a brar and sing The Good Ship Lollipop.

 

Ok, let's leave it there buddy, otherwise Steve will get excited!

Cheers,

GEorge

 

Actually, I think I did make such a statement, or something very similar. I was wrong. I failed to check and simply made an incorrect assumption.
I hope Police was able to read my apology back then, if not I apologize again.

 

Hello friends, sorry about my English.

No problem mdoneil. These things happens.

All my degrees are legal under the USA Laws because the institutions are “legally authorized to provide an educational program beyond secondary education in the State in which the institution is physically located” (Code of Federal Regulations 34CFR600.4) Authority: 20 U.S.C. 1094, 1099b, and 1141(a).

(4) Are accredited by the powerful Middle States Commission on Higher Education. http://www.msache.org/

The other is from a legal unaccredited institution of higher education that has legal authorization to grant its degrees, and it meets all the legal requirements to operate as an institution of higher education in the State of Hawaii. In addition, the degree granting institution was recognized and commended by the Hawaii Senate and the Hawaii House of Representatives. http://www.pwu.com/home.asp?ID=8

The only thing that they no have is the Accreditation. A thing that the Federal Government says is an "voluntary membership” (Authority: 20 U.S.C.1099b)
http://www.ed.gov/legislation/FedRegister/finrule/1999-4/102099a.html#subpartb

And that “accrediting agencies that are recognized by the Secretary have no legal control over educational institutions or programs” http://www.ed.gov/admins/finaid/accred/accreditation_pg3.html


However, no problem mdoneil, these things happen.

 

In the Middle States Commission on Higher Education. http://www.msache.org/ no record of a University College of Criminal Justice or of a Universidad Metropolitana could be found.

 

CHEA indicates both of them are accredited by Middle States.

http://www.chea.org

The reason why you didn't find Universidad Metropolitana is probably because it has merged with two other Puerto Rican schools and CHEA lists it under the heading 'Sistema Universitario Ana G. Mendez'.

I don't know why you didn't find the University College of Criminal Justice. (I'm unable to access Middle States' site.) CHEA lists it under that name.

 

On a recent rerun of M.A.S.H. The Colonel Potter character, on being told that they would have a British patrol coming through, says 'at least it will give me a chance to practice my English'