Gmat

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  1. bo79

    bo79 New Member

    I just came across a very odd resume. The guy had his GMAT(650) score listed on his resume. I was really surprised because I have never seen or heared about people putting their GMAT score on their resume. Did anyone on here every encounter something like this? Is this considered normal and acceptable?
     
  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I've never seen a resume with the GMAT score on it.
     
  3. Han

    Han New Member

    Never.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Has he gone to business school? If not, is he applying for positions where a Master's in business would be preferred? Perhaps he's trying to demonstrate his intention to continue with a management education, along with his aptitude for doing so.

    Thus, while I'd consider it unusual, I don't find it objectionable or unacceptable -- unless he's lying, of course. :)

    -=Steve=-
     
  5. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    It's not common for people to disclose a GMAT score on their resume. It may provide employers with some information on the prospective employee's general skills abilities. Most employers today are looking for people who can problem solve, apply logic to complex tasks and calculate mathematical formulas. A solid GMAT score (and the intention to complete an MBA) can be beneficial to the prospective employee.
     
  6. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    I can attest to this. In the Air Force, if you are applying for a job in the Medical Service Corp (health care administrators) you are required to submit your GRE/GMAT scores even if you already have your MBA or other administration/management related masters degree. The reason for this is answered in this quote from the MSC Appolication Information Guide. "The question of why an individual with a master’s degree needs these tests scores often arises--the bottom line is that not all master’s degrees are equal and these scores are used by the selection board as a discriminator amongst applicants."
     
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I considered the direct commissioning route described above. Yes, I would have had to submit my GMAT score. But it's silly for the Air Force to require it of master's-qualified applicants, or anyone else for that matter. The test isn't designed to be used for the purpose described above. It is designed to be used to help determine the liklihood of success in graduate school. That's it. Misuses of "aptitude" tests abound.

    The Air Force has its own aptitude test for officer candidates, the Air Force Officer Qualifiying Test. The validity of that test can certainly be argued (for and against).

    As for the person putting the GMAT score on the resume, how silly.
     
  8. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    Rich - I agree that it is a misuse of the test. There is a new applicant guide coming out sometime in the next two months. Maybe this policy will change.:rolleyes:

    I also don't see the point of needing to provide a GRE/GMAT score for a second masters program. If you already have a graduate degree, you have shown that you can succeed in a graduate program. What's the point of having to show it a second time, or worse, have to retake it because it has been more than five years since the first time it was taken?
     
  9. adireynolds

    adireynolds New Member

    My guess would be for the same reason as you listed above -- as a discriminator among applicants.

    I had to retake mine when I started an MBA program two years ago, as 9 years had passed since I took my original GRE. When I got my results, I stopped minding -- my score had increased 90 points! :D
     
  10. bo79

    bo79 New Member

    Thanks for your input guys. This guy did have an MPA, so I really don't understand why he would put his GMAT score oh his resume.
     
  11. Han

    Han New Member

    And a score of 650 is not very impressive.
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Depends. Without looking, I'd guess 650 would place him in the upper quartile.

    (Okay, I looked it up. A score of 650 puts one in the 85th percentile during 1999-2001. I don't think that's changed much over the years.
     
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  13. Han

    Han New Member

    Some of the doctrate programs out there require a MINIMUM of 650 to get in, so I don't see that as anything to brag about.
     
  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Can you provide a few examples? I'd like to read more.

    It seems unlikely that very many doctoral programs would require a GMAT at the 85th percentile, but I'm sure I could be mistaken.
     
  15. Han

    Han New Member

    http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/MBA/admissions_1.html

    Here is one, This is only for their MBA, and though it says "80%", I was told by the admissions deparatment, that below a 650 NEVER happens.
     
  16. Han

    Han New Member

  17. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    The median isn't the minimum; it is the middle score. Berkeley can afford to be quite selective, but this doesn't support your contention that 650 is the minimum. Their literature indicates no minimum--although I'm sure there is a practical one.

    You've listed one school. I'm sure there are others with very high requirements. But that doesn't demonstrate your point that a 650 is somehow not good. It represents about the 85th percentile which, by definition, is quite high.
     
  18. Han

    Han New Member

    Yes, I know this Rich, that is why I put the first posting, but I guess that was missed. Selective quoting here. :rolleyes:

    "Here is one, This is only for their MBA, and though it says "80%", I was told by the admissions deparatment, that below a 650 NEVER happens."
     
  19. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Han:

    Instead of tossing up a couple of anecdotes (from one school), and then blaming me for not interpreting them the same way you do--and trumping my interpretation with some undisclosed conversation you say you had--how about some actual evidence regarding a 650 GMAT and its uselessness in getting into doctoral programs? Absent that, shouldn't we just regard your original statement as baseless? (Hint: Perhaps the College Board has such data.)
     
  20. Han

    Han New Member

    Rich,

    Relax, you are touchy these days.

    I just said it wasn't very impressive, you asked for examples, I put one up, I didn't realize the number you wanted me to put up. More are below - I don't see the big deal.

    "Its uselessness in getting into doctoral programs??" Not sure where you got that, but not from me as you stated???? All I said is that a 650 os not very impressive. Maybe you are referring to another poster or another posting? Not sure. :confused:

    Here is an article that states: "The minimum acceptable score is 650 by the top schools” http://www.mba4success.com/news_gmat.php

    A few others, hopfully fulfilling your minimum requirement :rolleyes:

    “all of our admitted students had GMAT scores over 650”
    www.biz.uiowa.edu/marketing/FAQ.html

    “who gain admission typically have a GPA of about 3.5 and a GMAT score of 650 or above “
    http://www.kelley.iu.edu/doctoral/common.html

    “Minimum GMAT Score: 650. Average GMAT Score: 700”
    http://www.adamcoldwell.com/universityoftexasataustin.html

    “GMAT minimum score 650”
    www.web2webjalandhar.com/htmls/study_abroad/usa.htm

    http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/dept/accounting/phd/faq-admission.asp

    http://www.zagury.com/mbaguide3.html

    If you need more, do a quick search on the internet, there are MANY out there with the requirement, really not anything to get all worked up about.

    ;)
     

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