Study: Red Sea parting was possible

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  1. BlackBird

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  2. roysavia

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    This story is a bit hard to swallow. We've had winds blow in excess of 75 MPH across Lake Ontario with little effect to the waters or shoreline.
    In order to part or divide any amount of water (river or lake) you would need hurricane force winds in excess of 200 MPH.
     
  3. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    This story is a bit hard to swallow. We've had winds blow in excess of 75 MPH across Lake Ontario with little effect to the waters or shoreline.
    In order to part or divide any amount of water (river or lake) you would need hurricane force winds in excess of 200 MPH.
     
  4. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    This story is a bit hard to swallow. We've had winds blow in excess of 75 MPH across Lake Ontario with little effect to the waters or shoreline.
    In order to part or divide any amount of water (river or lake) you would need hurricane force winds in excess of 200 MPH.
     
  5. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    This story is a bit hard to swallow. We've had winds blow in excess of 75 MPH across Lake Ontario with little effect to the waters or shoreline.
    In order to part or divide any amount of water (river or lake) you would need hurricane force winds in excess of 200 MPH.
     
  6. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    This story is a bit hard to swallow. We've had winds blow in excess of 75 MPH across Lake Ontario with little effect to the waters or shoreline.
    In order to part or divide any amount of water (river or lake) you would need hurricane force winds in excess of 200 MPH.
     
  7. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    This story is a bit hard to swallow. We've had winds blow in excess of 75 MPH across Lake Ontario with little effect to the waters or shoreline.
    In order to part or divide any amount of water (river or lake) you would need hurricane force winds in excess of 200 MPH.
     
  8. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    This would make an interesting topic for an oceanography thesis/dissertation.
    There are other events (or combination of events) that could cause for a Red Sea parting: extremely low tide due to moon/sun relationship or a tsunami caused by earthquake or cyclone.
     
  9. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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  10. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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  11. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    "Red Sea" in Exodus 15:4 is a mistranslation, isn't it? It should be "Sea of Reeds", shouldn't it?
     
  12. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    So Moon is God??? I propose trial by fire.
     
  13. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

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    Lexically suph means reed or water plant [Theological Wordbook of the OT, 2:620 ; BDB Lexicon, 692]. Yam Suph may refer to the Gulf of Suez [BDB] or Akabah . There in the marshes of Suez such reeds exist , but , according to JL Milhelic, no such reeds are in the Red Sea . Yet Wright says Suez has not the shoal water suggested by Ex 14:21 [ISBE ,4:2539}. The route of Israel, among Christians,along with about everything else, is in dispute[IDB 5:20].
     
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  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Wasn't Moroni (of Book of Mormon fame) supposed to be the last of the tribe of Israel, in the America's? Maybe they should look for the route in New York?
    ( :p )
     
  15. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    No, that was Mordecai Noah.
     
  16. Christopher Green

    Christopher Green New Member

    Sea of Reeds

    Bill Grover Wrote:
    Bill is right here, at least, IMO. As I see it, what is supposed to be so spectacular about the exodus event in the OT texts is NOT the gigantic size of the body of water. As soon as the connotation of water is found in the text, we should associate it with all kinds of things that are commonplace in the overall OT narrative: the enemies of God, unbelieving Gentile nations, new life, cleansing from disease, etc. What is emphasized in Exodus is, not surprisingly to me, the miraculous intervention of Yahweh to defeat the enemies of God. See the "song of the sea" in Ex. 15.

    Ezekiel does take a somewhat different perspective on this in his allegory, Ez. 16. It is seen as a "cleansing" from the blood of a new born child.

    Basically, the narration itself in Exodus isn't just descriptive, it is shaped and formed to develop OT eschatology. If we spend too much time on "how big was this body of water?" we basically miss the point. Who was Cain's wife anyway???? Who cares? Certainly not Moses/"the author."

    And by the way, now that quantum theory is more established as an independent discipline in "the academy" (maybe I'm beyond myself here) doesn't it stand to "reason" that a butterfly fluttering somehwere in India can cause a hurricane over 200 MPH in Egypt? Just wondering. A philosopher friend of mine mentioned this to me as an example of what quantum physics means for biblical criticism.

    Chris
     
  17. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    That's why a little thing called "faith" is necessary.
     
  18. angela

    angela New Member

    Or, when all else fails, regard it as a metaphor!
     
  19. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    Bill Grover write about Exodus 15:4 :

    > Lexically suph means reed or water plant [...]. Yam Suph
    > may refer to the Gulf of Suez [BDB] or Akabah. There in the
    > marshes of Suez such reeds exist, but, according to JL Milhelic,
    > no such reeds are in the Red Sea. Yet Wright says Suez has
    > not the shoal water suggested by Ex 14:21


    Hmm. Do scholars who believe in the J, E, and P sources ascribe Exodus 14:21 and Exodus 15:4 to the same or different sources?
     
  20. Jodokk

    Jodokk Member

    You got my Reed wet!

    Yes, exactly, a mistranslation and now all this. Red hats or Green. Frankenstien the divine can only tell us. Or maybe Lister.
     

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