Super Doctorate

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  1. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

  2. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    I think that agrégé means teacher.
     
  3. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Could it be a Papal degree?
     
  4. agilham

    agilham New Member

    Louvain still offer it. http://www.ucl.ac.be/etudes/programmes/theo3a.html

    Playing around with google's translation function and the Louvain degree regulations pages shows that you have to have a doctorate for admission, and that it's a thesis-based defence of a body of work carried out over a number of years. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.ucl.ac.be/etudes/2002/libres/rg360.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522Agr%25C3%25A9gation%2Bde%2Bl%2527enseignement%2Bsup%25C3%25A9rieur%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG

    Angela
     
  5. jon porter

    jon porter New Member

    The agrégé is the French equivalent of the German habillation, a sort-of post-doctoral thesis required for a professorship.

    jon
     
  6. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    So it's like a "higher doctorate" in the UK system?
     
  7. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Habilitation
     
  8. jon porter

    jon porter New Member

    Nosborne wrote:

    So it's like a "higher doctorate" in the UK system?

    Rather more like a postdoctoral Oxford Junior Research Fellowship or the Licenciate in Mediaeval Studies at U Toronto (the new postdoctoral version). A higher doctorate usually comes near the end of a career, not towards the beginning.


    jon
     
  9. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    Back when this thread was originally started I wrote to the university seeking an answer to the above question. Well, by now the question has been answered but I thought I'd share the answer that just arrived from Michel Dupuis, Dean of the Institute:

    "Dear Sir, this degree confered after the doctorate in Philosophy is the level of the German Habilitation...The Institute confers this degree of "agregation de l'enseignement superieur" and the degree of "maitrise de l'ecole de saint Thomas". You can consult our web site ("reglement") and you'll find all the information about these degrees."

    So that's the deal, more or less what's written by others above.
    Jack
     
  10. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    All, thanks for the follow-up. Jack, thanks for contacting the university directly.

    Now we know.:)

    John
     
  11. Ike

    Ike New Member

    It’s better to describe this degree as “post doctorate” or “professorial doctorate” rather than "super doctorate". I think that “super doctorate” is a misnomer in this case.

    Ike Okonkwo, PhD
     
  12. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    I would go with "higher doctorate" as this is very common in many countries.

    John
     
  13. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Whatever it's called, I'm sure there's a mill somewhere who will sell it to you...
     
  14. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    I believe the old Mellon University used to sell Habilitation doctorates.

    John
     
  15. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    If you get out of prison after doing time for diploma fraud, is it a re-Habilitation doctorate??:D
     

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