DETC accreditation update

As we know, DETC only announces successes. The rejections and postponements must be learned about from the schools themselves or other sources. Let's try to learn what we can. Here's what I know on this 14th of January:

Southwest University, Kenner, LA: Yes.
California Coast University, Santa Ana, CA: Postponed.

The others:
AHS Institute, Association for Hebraic Studies, Suffern, NY
Central State University, Riverside, CA
Century University, Albuquerque, NM
Educational Correspondence Training School, Erie, PA
IMPAC University, Punta Gorda, FL
International Sports Sciences Association, Santa Barbara, CA
KLC School of Design, London, England, UK
Lansbridge University, Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada
Rescue College, Kansas City, MO
Sonoran Desert Institute, Scottsdale, AZ

 

I heard from a usually reliable source that IMPAC and Sonoran made it but it was not from the horse's mouth.

SCUPS recently appeared on one DETC list but not another.

CCU wouldn't be expected to be approved until next June, its only been 6 months since application.

 

Sonoran is claiming DETC accreditation and displaying the DETC logo. Apparently they don't offer degree programs. They seem to offer certificates in home inspection and gunsmithing.

http://www.sonoranlearning.com/about.htm

IMPAC is also displaying the DETC logo. They offer MBAs and MS degrees in HR and MIS.

http://www.impacu.edu/

AHS Institute- Association for Hebraic Studies doesn't seem to be showing a DETC logo yet. But this thing is interesting because it seems to have some kind of articulation agreement with Charter Oak State College, allowing students to take courses from AHS for credit towards an RA associates or bachelors degree awarded by COSC.

http://www.mosdos.com/aboutahs.shtml

I didn't see any mention of DETC on Central State's website.

http://www.university.edu/

Nothing on Century's website

http://www.centuryuniversity.edu/

Nothing yet on ECTS's site. They seem to be a vocational school in Pennsylvania offering diploma and certificate programs.

http://www.ectschool.com/

Nothing for ISSA. They offer certificate programs for personal trainers.

http://www.issaonline.com/

KLC School of Design offers certificate courses for interior and garden designers. They don't mention DETC on their accreditation page.

http://www.klc.co.uk/About/

Nothing about DETC on the Lansbridge accreditation page.

http://www.lansbridge.com/general/index.php

Nothing from Rescue College. This place offers a bachelors in rescue ministry to prepare staff for ministering to urban street people.

http://www.rescue.edu/html/introduction.html

 

CCU DETC postponed

What does this mean? Do you think CCU will receive accreditation this June? I'm curious about the cost of the Master's program since they don't list fees/tuition on the site.

 

CCU wasn't at all expected by most people to receive accreditation until June.

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Application form or bulletin has prices.

MBA $3,975.

Only 3 accredited out of about a dozen. Is there a failure to communicate or has the DETC became way pickier? I would assume that before anyone applied they would be reasonably sure of success.

 

There isn't anything preventing a school from applying, regardless of its preparation for success. It was used by some Louisiana schools to extend their existence in that state.

Some schools are disapproved and go away, like Orion. Others, like Southwest, succeed after some setbacks. ("Reg Strikes Back" isn't just about Elton John.) And some breeze right in. June for CCU? Okay, we'll see. I hope they get it. But a number of people with considerable stakes in the matter have practically predicted it--hope they're not disappointed.

 

My guess is that like CCU, it's too early to expect a decision for several of them.

If Lansbridge can get the equivalent of accreditation in New Brunswick, I expect that it can win over DETC. AHS Institute- Association for Hebraic Studies looks at least superficially like an academically worthy effort as well. So I'd wager that those two at least are successful down the road. With a couple of the others, I'm less confident.

 

CCU?

Hello.

I was just wondering if members here think that we
might hear something concerning California Coast University
and DETC shortly.

Good day.

 

Re: CCU?

I haven't looked up the dates of the meeting but it should be in early June.

 

Re: CCU?

My gut feeling is that CCU will achieve DETC accreditation eventually. However, I'm not sure that is necessarily a good thing for them.

If they do become DETC accredited, they will lose their doctoral programs, and become just another generic DETC school. Right now they are among the more reputable unaccredited schools, and I think they're going to lose their core customer base by becoming accredited.

Strictly from a business angle, I think CCU is making a mistake.

 

Re: Re: Re: CCU?

I don't know about that. I would suspect that CCU, in it's former design, had reached a maturity--or even decline--on the marketing curve. By becoming an accredited school, CCU opens up huge new markets, especially the one with students who have tution reimbursement benefits like the military, which will list CCU in its DANTES catalog--making CCU automatically eligible for tuition assistance. New, funded students? That's something to consider.

I was doing a little work with John on Heriot-Watt a long time ago. We strongly considered going after DETC accreditation for the MBA program, for two distinct reasons. First, it would instantly answer the question "Is it accredited?" Instead of explaining royal charters and acts of parliament, we could simply answer "yes." Secondly, it would mean being listed in the DANTES catalog, opening wide the military market. But then John sold it.

 

Re: Re: Re: Re: CCU?

Good point.

Of course, becoming accredited also opens up CCU to huge competition with the other DETC schools. Unless they can offer something the other schools can't, or offer the same things at a cheaper price, they become just another DETC school.

I've never looked into it, but I suspect that a large portion of CCU's business came from their doctoral offerings.

 

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CCU?

Low price, long history, $100 per month payment plan, reasonably good name, faculty with blue-chip degrees - I think they will be overwhelmed with enrollments, if accreditation is successful.

 

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CCU?

We shall see.

I predict a huge price increase if and when accreditation is granted. I don't fault CCU for this, as every other school seems to have done it.

I just don't see what a DETC-accredited CCU can offer that isn't already offered by American Military University, Aspen University, etc.

 

Rich: "I was doing a little work with John on Heriot-Watt . . . but then John sold it."

John: Before Professor Kennedy chokes on his haggis, let me hasten to clarify that what we sold (to Pearson) was our school marketing company, that placed ads and did other marketing for Heriot-Watt and for the University of Leicester.

I remember when California Coast got its accreditation from the legitimate but unrecognized National Association for Private Nontraditional Schools and Colleges. CCU owner Tom Neal told me that it was "the worst mistake I ever made," because of the changes he had to make, especially to the doctoral program, to satisfy NAPNSC, resulting in many fewer students. But they kept and used that accreditation for 15 or more years, always hoping NAPNSC would become recognized by the Dept. of Education, which never happened.

I'd surely bet on them getting DETC accreditation on the first try. I mean, since all those with comparable models (Andrew Jackson, California National, Columbia Southern, etc.) got it quickly, CCU seems a slam dunk to me.

 

Re: Hmm

DANTES maintains a catalog of distance learning schools. In it is a section on DETC-accredited schools. Being listed in the DANTES catalog means the school is automatically eligible for tuition assistance. So, DETC doesn't "help" a school regarding the military market. But being accredited by DETC does.

 

What I meant. But it wasn't clear. Ooops.

 

Re: Re: Hmm

Are you sure?

For example, I KNOW that, even though it's DETC-accredited and is an RA-equivelent school in its own country, one CAN'T use VA GI-Bill benefits for UNISA expenses. (In addition to being eligible for VA reimbursement, a foreign school also needs to make arrangement with the VA in ways I know nothing about.)


Cordially,
Richard Kanarek

 

Then the matter is settled!

In order to beat the tuition increase I need to enroll in CCU's new M.Ed. program asap.