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    philosophy is offline Registered User
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    Dec 2003

    World Christianship Ministries, Louisiana Baptist University, and Unaccredited

    World Christianship Ministries offers Christian Ordination for a fee. Does this seem to be real? Are there people who would actually feel justified in getting credentials from this ministry? Louisiana Baptist University has been a topic of conversation as with most unaccredited schools. There is Andersonville Baptist Seminary, Trinity College of the Bible, and the lists go on. My point in this discussion is to give the people who have actually received credentials from these places a chance to justify and how they feel that such credentials are legitimate and authentic. I also wanted to get the opinion of those like myself, that have reservations, as we say that they either "cut-the-mustard or they don't." I think to me it comes to a simple phrase as Socrates says "Define Your Terms." People can see you in the mirror, and if it is not the real thing, as the Coke commercial says, then they are going to read you like a book. However, I would presume that there might be some that have taken courses from these schools and feel as though they have completed something that is real and legitimate in their eyes. However, if I were in such a position, I would really take a hard look at myself, and wonder how I could accept these type of credentials. I am not judging those that have this, but to say that reality is that you are either authentic or not, and to many it is possible that you have been deceived into thinking that these are legitimate and real. To me, a person who has these credentials and goes to apply for a job and puts these on a resume, is really putting themselves in a bad situation. To the person, who has legitimately attended a valid source, then this is ok (regional accreditation, or some other valid source.) If one is to use these credentials for themselves with no intention of trying to pass them off a legitimate, then I guess that it would not do harm in and of itself. I guess the question I have is why even attempt to do so?
    "Never leave that till tomorrow which you can do today." -Benjamin Franklin

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    Charles is offline Registered User
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    Spotsylvania, Virginia

    Many of your thoughts were discussed in the thread below. Which, I think, turned into an excellent discussion.

    Charles Fout

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    spiritglove is offline Registered User
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    Acredidation and Religion

    My Dear Mesosophy:

    I just found WCM seconds ago, and thought to do a little research, because Perennial Philosophy is my favorite obsession. I have already spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on books, and decades of my life soul searching and I know that the most important thing to do is to love, like Jesus taught, so that is what I try to do, and with that huge heart to draw upon, I am able to understand others as well.
    I just thought to point out, that the only complaints I could find about WCM, were related to material(?). Like I just said, I already spent 10's of 1000's of dollars of my own money to pursue my OBSESSION, I can't imagine how having any additional material from whatever source, can in and of its self make me or my community more spiritual.
    Only the Love makes us the spiritual beings that we are. Any ministry or religious persuasion that is going to lend legitimacy to teaching humanity to love it's self again, will receive my support. Even yours. (:
    Lets stop drawing on the negative emotions, all of us, all together. If someone has caused you harm, LOVE THEM and then they will feel guilty, they shall be their own judge, jury and executioner.

    Jesus didn’t go to an accredited school.
    What’s real is inside all of us
    Where matters of religion are concerned accreditation is only good for taking a tax write off on your education expenses.

    In New York State the law is Religious Corporations Law #2 Defines clergy very clearly

    § 2. Definitions. A "Religious Corporations Law corporation" is a
    corporation created for religious purposes to which this chapter applies
    under section two-a of this chapter. Unless the context otherwise
    requires, whenever "religious corporation" or "corporation" is used in
    this chapter, such term shall mean a "Religious Corporations Law
    An "incorporated church" is a religious corporation created to enable
    its members to meet for divine worship or other religious observances.
    An "unincorporated church" is a congregation, society, or other
    assemblage of persons who are accustomed to statedly meet for divine
    worship or other religious observances, without having been incorporated
    for that purpose.
    The term "clergyman" and the term "minister" include a duly authorized
    pastor, rector, priest, rabbi, and a person having authority from, or in
    accordance with, the rules and regulations of the governing
    ecclesiastical body of the denomination or order, if any, to which the
    church belongs, or otherwise from the church or synagogue to preside
    over and direct the spiritual affairs of the church or synagogue.

    No accreditation required: veryhappy:

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