Michigan's official list of unacceptable schools

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  1. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Perhaps it has been mentioned before, but it was new to me: an awfully helpful and very long list of institutions whose degrees "will not be accepted" by the state of Michigan "as satisfying any educational requirements indicated on job specifications." 12 pages of them, and updated through late November 2003.

    http://www.michigan.gov/documents/Non-accreditedSchools_78090_7.pdf
     
  2. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    Nice list. Apparently it's up to date too.
    Jack
     
  3. cehi

    cehi New Member

    Dr. Bear,

    Thank you for posting the web site. Apparently, the movement to showcase these schools just keep getting bigger. Thank you.
     
  4. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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  5. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    I see some of the CA-approved schools on this list but not others.

    Cal Coast and SCUPS are there. Hsi Lai and NTPS aren't. Neither is University of Philosophical Research or the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality. Ryokan, San Francisco Law School and Oakbrook aren't there either.

    I'd be interested in knowing the criteria that were used in compiling the list. Is this an Oregon-type deal where degrees must come from schools with US Dept. of Education recognized accreditation? Is there a mechanism available for non-accredited schools to become MI-legal? What about new schools or candidates for accreditation?

    This is interesting:

    Unapproved Accrediting Bodies
    These bodies are not approved by the U. S. Department of Education and therefore any so-called "accreditation" by these bodies is meaningless.


    The American Chemical Society (not on the list) isn't approved by the US Dept. of Education, but its accreditation of chemistry departments isn't meaningless. Of course, the ACS doesn't pretend to be an institutional accreditor, which seems to be the subject here I don't know of any non-recognized institutional accreditor that's truly credible.
     
  6. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    Strictly speaking, ACS (of which I have been a member for several decades) doesn't accredit departments. ACS approves chemistry programs. And students who follow an approved program can earn a chemistry degree that is certified by the ACS. I don't believe that ACS uses the word accreditation (though some of the chemistry departments may -- incorrectly). The ACS guidelines are here.
     
  7. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Interesting to note that the non ABA California law schools aren't on the list. I looked at the Michigan bar admission rules; strictly speaking, an ABA degree is NOT required, even for a newly minted JD. The applicant must be a gradute of a "reputable" law school with a three year program and show evidence of two years of prelaw education.

    I wonder of a California Bar approved JD would qualify?
     
  8. galanga

    galanga New Member

    perhaps their moving expenses will be less this way

    Perhaps the International College of Homeland Security could sneak in under Michigan's radar (it's not listed) and install itself there, instead of heading to Switzerland to share an office with the Private Research Institute of Modulated Energies.

    This might be advisable for the sake of its staff: if the GKA system cures cancer in patients inside the GKA booth as is claimed, perhaps it would have the opposite effect on people outside the device. That would be nasty for the ICHS office staff.

    You may think this makes as much sense as the astronautical engineering advice offered to NASA by Chief (and Cosmonaut) Swift Eagle. But better safe than sorry.

    G
     
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  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Nice list!

    I notice that Knightsbridge University is not on the list which may or may not be an oversight? I assume that Bob Jones University was intentionally left off the list though.
     
  10. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Galanga: "if the GKA system cures cancer in patients inside the GKA booth as is claimed, perhaps it would have the opposite effect on people outside the device. That would be nasty for the ICHS office staff."

    That's a vaudeville routine from the old days. Poor wretch takes a job at a medical clinic that has an amazing disease-curing machine. Person with disease holds one handle, poor wretch holds the other. Lights flash, buzzers buzz, and the disease is transmitted from the patient to the employee, who gets sicker and sicker, and then when a pregnant lady comes in, he faints. Blackout.

    John Bear, whose 2nd cousin,
    Buster Lorenzo, was a
    vaudeville comedian
     
  11. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    It says degrees from these schools will not be accepted by the Department of Civil Service as satisfying job requirements. This does not mean that use of degrees from these schools is illegal per se in Michigan. (Should/not be is another question.)
     

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