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    Originally posted by Bill Hurd


    Attacking a degree mill that is out to scam people is one thing...but I believe you have crossed the line on this one.

    Just how many saints have been "made" in the last few years? How many of those who were canonized lived in the 1950-1999 era?

    I suppose you already know that you must be dead to even be considered for sainthood. So who "takes the number"?

    Bill Hurd
    I have not crossed the line on this issue. As a ex-catholic I can say with confidence that the vatican has been playing a numbers game for the past 20 years. There have been more beatifications and sainthoods "handed out" since 1981 by Pope John Paul that any other Pope in the history of the vatican.
    Who takes a number? The 25 new cardinals, 23 religious people who have been beatified and approximately 7 new saints. I also did not mention death or dying in my statement......those are your words.
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    I just read through this thread and I thought I was at TheologyReview.com -- until I suddenly realized that I'm really at DegreeInfo.com.

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    Posted by Bill Grover
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    For anyone who wants to get a doctorate, Unizul has reduced its fees by 50%... now a total of $1200. Wow!
    Excellent price... but... one has to ask -- What is wrong with South Africa? Why are the prices dropping to pennies? Is that country imploding? :(

    They used to be an economic powerhouse, but now they are... are... going through an economic depression?

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    Originally posted by me again
    ... They used to be an economic powerhouse, but now they are... are... going through an economic depression?
    That's the U.S. you're talking about.

    South Africa is doing OK. See http://www.resbank.co.za/Economics/zaflink1.html

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    Originally posted by Bill Grover
    prophecy is said to be a gift..

    ..to some so is a PhD.


    BTW, for any prophets who wish to get the doc instead by study , Unizul has reduced its fees by 50%...now a total of but $1200. Wow!
    Wish I could take advantage of that price, but professionally I can not...The price is awesome...is that per year or total? That equals my current cost per sem. for a lower level degree...Now maybe once I finish up I can do it for personal reasons only.

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    Bill Dayson: There seems to be a very close analogy between this religious problem and our familiar accreditation disputes.

    John: Isomorphic, even. There have been at least three religious schools that stated in their literature that they were "accredited by God."

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    Posted by John Bear
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    There have been at least three religious schools that stated in their literature that they were:
    • "Accredited by God."
    I don't think that the accreditation process go any higher then that. ;)

    I wonder if His accreditation is good enough for Harvard or Princeton? :D

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    Originally posted by flipkid


    Wish I could take advantage of that price, but professionally I can not...The price is awesome...is that per year or total? That equals my current cost per sem. for a lower level degree...Now maybe once I finish up I can do it for personal reasons only.

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    I didn't realize the reduction until I recently read the UZ Dept Religion website on doc faqs. Tried to post the URL but couldn't get it right-sorry. This price is for for those who enroll in 2003 and covers the tuition for the (about) three year program.
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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jimmy Clifton
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    a prophet is one who receives divine revelation and speaks God's word without error or omission.

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    That's right. So we Conservative Baptists are presently busy at work trying to decide where in the canon we should put Juanita's writings. After the Gospels? With the Pastorals? Hmmm...Where do you think Jimmy?
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    Originally posted by John Bear
    ...There have been at least three religious schools that stated in their literature that they were "accredited by God."
    To wit one Freelandia Bible College and Seminary when it was in Missouri (or was it Oklahoma?). Today it is "approved unto God."

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    Originally posted by me again
    Excellent price... but... one has to ask -- What is wrong with South Africa? Why are the prices dropping to pennies? Is that country imploding? :(
    1) I'm not enough of an expert to really answer your question regarding implosion but I've recently read a newspaper story (sorry, I can't find the link) that the collection of South African universities are being challenged by the government to reduce costs so that a larger collection of South African citizens can afford to attend universities. South Africa is quite unlike the US in regards to its political/economic status and it seems clear that the creation of a larger educated middle class is a priority. They require further development and reducing the cost of university education (and thereby increasing the number of persons who can attend/graduate) becomes most important. The fact that this then makes it somewhat easier for us Western DL students is a happy by-product.
    2) I think Roy's statement was alright. I, too, am a "fallen angel" and I believe that the Pope can handle a little heat.
    3) I've noted that this is the third thread started by Roscoe that prominantly mentions Juanita Bynum. Roscoe, are you a bit obsessed? ;) Are you in the market for a fortune teller? :D Your question about the origin of her degree was answered in the last thread, why are you asking again?

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    Cool

    Some folks should not make fun of evanescent seminaries...

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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bill Grover
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    Originally posted by Jimmy Clifton
    ...where in the canon we should put Juanita's writings. After the Gospels? With the Pastorals? Hmmm...Where do you think Jimmy?
    Not in the canon but in either the Apocrypha or the pseudepigraphal literature . :D

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    Originally posted by uncle janko
    Some folks should not make fun of evanescent seminaries...
    Do they graduate ephemeral ministers??? :D :D
    Roy Savia



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    Originally posted by roysavia
    Do they graduate ephemeral ministers??? :D :D
    With Bynum it's more like visceral!

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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jimmy Clifton
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    Not in the canon but in either the Apocrypha...



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    Hmmm. don't think my RCC bros want her there either;)
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