DL Optometry/Clinical Psychology/Pharmaceutical degree?

Do you know of any, hopefully I can get one and qualify as a health professional in Canada. I already have a undergraduate degree? But I am new at this and I am really glad that there are so many knowledge posters on the board, thanks for your help.
Thank you

 

I have a friend with a degree in Pharmacy from the #1 school in China - Beijing University. She's tried and failed the Pharmacist exam in Canada twice. She's moving to the USA now - where the exam pass rates are higher.
It's notoriously difficult to get into the Health Professions in Canada. Too many applicants for too few spaces in the Universities. Foreign graduates have a hard time getting licenses because of restrictive practices by the professional licensing boards.

It used to be that Engineers coming into Canada and seeking the PEng (PE) licence were required to take up to eight four-hour exams approximating the final exams of Canadian University Engineering Courses.

 

That is correct. The admission has been raised pretty high since everyone is waiting for the baby boomers to start paying for their services. Good that some health professional associations recognize degrees from the States e.g. chiropractors, not entirely sure about pharmeceutical degree though.
Also clincial psychology and optometry degrees are quite recognized on both sides of the border, if I m not mistaken.

 

Chiroquackery

A short comment:

Chiropractors are not "Heath Professionals". They are quacks and con artists.

 

The essential problem with Kalo is not that he's always wrong. It's that he's always certain he's right.

You're not doing your cause much good to rid the world of mills and shills in the halls of academia when you make conclusory statements without support and without revealing your breathtaking expertise that validates such absolutist opinions. My guess as to your "exp[ertise"? You have a physician friend who is of this opinion and you're parroting it and/or you read one or two articles somewhere and now have gathered enough knowledge to "see round us all".

You need a few more years under your belt to realize that in this great big world, there are perspectives different than yours, yet somehow not asinine by dint of that fact.

 

Hilarious ! You exhibit all the knee-jerk gullibility of a true believer... Your essential problem is your unassailable ignorance.

It happens that I've been involved with anti-quackery for many years - starting with the Bay Area Skeptics in the 1980s. There hasn't been anything new in chiroquackery in 75 years - just added layers of superstition. But what would you know...?

 

Well, people are entitled to their opinions. I think pharmacists are a bunch of overpaid quacks too, but that's my opinion which I have a right to form. I wouldnt call it an insult, it just a personal view, dont take it personally.

 

Well, there's been a lot of backsliding among pharmacists. At the storefront level, Pharmacy is starting to lose its status as a learned evidence-based scientific profession. Go into any pharmacy today, and you'll see the shelves stocked with all kinds of high-priced bogus nostrums with outrageous claims. Sometimes, I mischieviously ask a pharmacist to explain how some idiot worthless patent medicine works - maybe ask to know what the active ingredients is in a homeopathic medicine. They hem and haw for a few seconds then make up some ridiculous explanation that reveals they don't know what they're selling.

 

I have quite a few college friends who went through pharamcy school and it is not easy.

I don't know if there are any DL pharmacy programs, but I would think it would be hard to do the Organic Chemistry portions of the degree at home.

 

And what is your experience in Pharmacy? I am friends with quite a few people who either are in the middle of or have finished their PharmDs and they worked their asses off for them. One of them happens to be a clinical pharamacist for a cancer unit at Dana Farber, care to tell her that she is a an over paid backslider? Stop blowing opinion and try backing something up with fact that you may know something about. Since I know this post will only result in an attack on myself, I have one more thing to say - troll, troll go away.....this place was a lot nicer before you showed up!

 

I believe he/she is referring to those less prestigious retail pharmacists. Lawyers come in all forms too, some judges, some district attorneys, so not all of them are evil, in theory anyways.

 

Creighton University has the only true "start-from-scratch" distance learning PharmD program in the U.S. There are other distance learning PharmD programs, but they are degree completion programs for pharmacists who already have their Bachelors in pharmacy.

There are some other foreign programs, but I would not recommend them because of the difficulty in using those credentials in Canada and the U.S.

 

Did I say I believe in chiropractic? I've never been to a chiropractor, never plan on going. Have no real opinion on the issue.

You say I'm unassailably ignorant? Based upon what? Your ignorance of me and what I know/don't know?

Again, your problem is that without any level of expertise (I consider a membership in the "Bay Area Skeptics Club" to fall far short of expertise, as would anyone who has a handfull of brain cells firing) you make absolutist pronouncements. I don't give a rip what the skeptics club thinks. They're not experts, they're not infallible.

You know no more about chiropractic than I do. In fact, you may well know less. I used to work in personal injury as an attorney, I've at least read reports and at one time had some halting familiarity. I've seen your background, it's posted here, I doubt you even have that much knowledge.

Kalos, you're coming across like a first class fool.

See, I told you we'd cross swords here. I'm not kidding, though, you're not any more expert on these fields than I. If you're going to sit there in your snickering little clubs and take everything at face value, you are one towering monument to gullibility.

 

Agreed, the guy is equal parts:

1). Crusader for justice (which is a noble thing),
2). Troll, and
3). Flamer

I like the first part, but he tends to discredit it thoroughly with the last two. I think it comes from the lethal combination of having that smugness that only comes from hanging around fellow smug people (see: "Bay Area Skeptics Society") and being naively ignorant of anything that they're talking about on anything other than a superficial level.

When you know a little--very little, college freshman little, I've attended two seminars on the subject at the Skeptics Society little--in a given field, but that is coupled with tremendous arrogance, you tend to develop this euphoria about how much you know. You become pedantic and tiresome; you lose all capacity for introspection. You need not examine your heart or your pronouncements, because you are, in your own mind, infallible.

At that point, you start sneering at anything that does not line up perfectly with your narrow little view of the world. The interesting thing about this phenomenon is that such people are almost to a person condescendingly hateful towards people of faith, particularly the true believer variety. And they are--and here's the funny part--but the flip side of the coin to the most staunch of true believers, the cruel, closed-minded, wife-enslavin' snake-handlin' variety--in other words, the Fred Phelps crowd (look him up). They're every bit as ignorant of reality and every bit as wedded to their closed-minded view of it as the most mouth-foaming of fundamentalists. They are philosophical brothers, on a very deep level.

They're ignorant, and paradoxically--or maybe not so paradoxically--their ignorance makes them arrogant.

 

Are you insinuating that the fact that some lawyers are judges and prosecutors is proof that not all lawyers are evil?

 

No, actually, all lawyers are evil.

Little Fauss
Bar Member since 1994

 

Ok back to the original question.

Optometry is not an option by distance learning to the best of my understanding. I do know some cannadians will go to a 3 year optometry program in the UK then need to have a 1 year upgrade course in Canada. THis would be an interesting program for DL.

Pharmacy- only one program which was addressed in the thread.

Psychology- I am not sure the reciprocity rules but try to have APA accreditation such as fielding www.fielding.edu this may help with licensure if APA is not required then there are other programs which may be an option.

Jeremy

 

Yeah, mea cuplas for the hijack.

 

Thanks, that Creighton University program looks pretty pricy...100K is sort of much to spend on a pharmacy degree, I might as well go to medical school opened by Devry. I am interested in learning about this optometry school you are talking about though. Does it mean that you have to stay in UK for three years or is it a DL program too? Tuition wise UK probably beats Canada or US.

http://www.apa.org/ed/accreditation/doctoral.html
There are quite a few APA accredited schools that people can get through to become licensed as a clincial counsellor. Does any of these schools on the list offer DL programs, I'm not entirely sure if there is any.

 

City University in Washington state offers two masters-equivalent counseling programs that satisfy Canadian requirements. I don't think their programs are *totally* DL, however.

http://www.cityu.edu/ovw_programs.htm

Good luck!