Schumer's speech

I understand your point, yet think that the attack on Israel was planned, and it could have happened at another time as well, it was just the catalyst for Jihad prepared political activities.
Those in my opinion were in making many years. So I'm not disputing what you are saying, there is a lot of critique and blame over cot 7th attacks and failures.
Yet I would like to point and warn that the protests were organized way before Oct 7,2023, the wildfire is now spreading and hard to contain.
THis is why what I post seems relevant in my view.

 

What protests is this talking about? If you're saying that the current anti-Israeli protests at Columbia University, for example, were planned prior to October 7 then you'll have to provide some supporting evidence because I don't believe that to be true.

 

The unfolding is all in playbookof Muslim Brotjerhood.
This is one of the planned actions, speciffic instigators in place.
The attack on Israel was planned for Passover then moved further to Simchat Torah.
This is all planned.
How it wast to be executed all is planned.
Israeli Jeurnalist Zevi Yehiskely infiltrated the Muslim Brotherhood.
There are multi series episodes about MB, how they operate etc.
The anti Israel activities on campuses grew more violent and hostile in last 15 years. To a degree where Israeli speakers were harased and sabotaged from speaking on many US campuses.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/the-goal-of-the-campus-jew-haters-to-render-israel-indefensible-in-both-senses-of-the-word/

"The underlying goal of the encampments and marches at Columbia, Yale, NYU and the other campuses is to render Israel indefensible — in both senses of the word.

The strategy:

First, to misrepresent what Israel has been subjected to and how it has responded since Hamas invaded our country on October 7, slaughtered 1,200 people, abducted 253 hostages, and then hid behind and beneath Gaza’s civilians in a bid to survive and do it all again.

Second, to falsely brand Israel as a brutal and indifferent aggressor, solely responsible for a soaring Gaza death toll that would, in fact, total precisely zero were it not for Hamas’s genocidal ambitions for the Jews and indifference to the lives of Gazan civilians.

Third, to build pressure for divestment from Israel, for an end to military aid, and ultimately for the severing of Israel’s vital alliance with the United States.

And, finally, to thus deprive Israel of the diplomatic and military means to survive the ongoing effort at its destruction, as effected by Iran and its allies and proxies."

 

Do you really believe that the protests happening around the USA primarily on college campuses were planned before October 7? There is no evidence to that? It appears to be nothing more than wild conspiracy theories? There is no need for wild conspiracy theories to explain any of this. Here's some food for thought.

"Occam's razor (or Ockham's razor) is a principle from philosophy. Suppose an event has two possible explanations. The explanation that requires the fewest assumptions is usually correct. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation."

 

The protests are a remnant of 2014 protests as well. At the time Israel stopped short from expanding their operation. So there was a president.
The planners of the protests had much greater success than they expected, but it's like wildfires, the instigators had to start the fires and the course of the fires spread with their active help.
The instructions and marching commands are coming from Hamas, Iran and possibly aided by some members of the Squad and others.
many of the followers are manipulated in to beliving they are protesting a geneside etc, and are being decived. There are delemas since IDF is not fighting a regular army, but terror army that is part and within heavy polulation.
But no one expected the colossal failure of the mostly liberal lead Universities to allow such hostile protests.
So my response at the core, definitely this is a part of Hamas and other Jihadi planning, date can be any time that the planned attack on Israel and Israeli response.

So I will report this info as the part of Jihad plan:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/the-goal-of-the-campus-jew-haters-to-render-israel-indefensible-in-both-senses-of-the-word/

"The underlying goal of the encampments and marches at Columbia, Yale, NYU and the other campuses is to render Israel indefensible — in both senses of the word.

The strategy:

First, to misrepresent what Israel has been subjected to and how it has responded since Hamas invaded our country on October 7, slaughtered 1,200 people, abducted 253 hostages, and then hid behind and beneath Gaza’s civilians in a bid to survive and do it all again.

Second, to falsely brand Israel as a brutal and indifferent aggressor, solely responsible for a soaring Gaza death toll that would, in fact, total precisely zero were it not for Hamas’s genocidal ambitions for the Jews and indifference to the lives of Gazan civilians.

Third, to build pressure for divestment from Israel, for an end to military aid, and ultimately for the severing of Israel’s vital alliance with the United States.

 

Interesting interview
Perspective on Iran/Israel/US and the Middle East

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/speaker-johnson-alleges-hamas-support-195821045.html

"Speaker Mike Johnson, claiming that Hamas supports the pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel protests at Columbia University and other of the U.S. colleges, on Thursday threatened congressional intervention, including pulling federal funding from the institutions.

In the Hamas statement, its spokesperson Izzat Al-Risheq blamed President Joe Biden for "violating the individual rights and the right to expression through arresting university students and faculty members for their rejection of the genocide to which our Palestinian people are being subjected in the Gaza Strip at the hands of the ******* Zionists."

"Today's students are the leaders of the future, and their suppression today means an expensive electoral bill that the Biden administration will pay sooner or later," Al-Risheq wrote in the statement.

In response to Hamas' statement, White House Deputy Press Secretary Andrew Bates told ABC News that "Hamas perpetrated the deadliest massacre of the Jewish people since the Holocaust, which makes them the least credible voice that exists on this subject."

"Hamas' disapproval, after their acts of 'unadulterated evil' -- which they've pledged to repeat 'again and again' -- is a testament to President Biden's moral clarity. President Biden has stood against Antisemitism his entire life. And he will never stop," Bates said.

Johnson's comments on Thursday came a day after he visited Columbia University, where he met with Jewish students and joined his New York House Republican colleagues in calling for the school's president, Minouche Shafik, to resign if she can't bring order to the protests. In a speech, during which boos and shouts from protesters often overpowered the speaker's words, Johnson considered the need to send the National Guard to intervene. "

Inflaming and encouraging protests - Political jihad, and it's not good for the future relations of US-Israel.
But on a deeper level, it's not good for the US Democracy to be influenced by Jihad.

 

That article does not support the wild conspiracy theories put forth earlier. Probably the closest thing to that was Mike Johnson's claim that folks were waving Hamas flags. If true then I'd guess most of the folks wouldn't know what a Hamas flag was anyway? The article said it probably wasn't true. The simplest explanation is still that the folks protesting are bothered by the scenes of death and destruction in Gaza. It doesn't show any sinister conspiracy with Hamas terrorists.

 

Americans and Gen Zers who support or tolerate Hamas supporters on US campuses! A little reminder from a reputable Arab Muslim voice from the Middle East.

You support a terrorist group with the same radical Islamist/Muslim Brotherhood ideology that destroyed the Twin Towers in Manhattan in 2001.

You won't live a day in Gaza under Hamas, which demands that "infidels" live with dignity only if they submit to the Islamists.

You cannot stand a day under the rule of these radicals. You don't understand Arabic, and you don't know Islam well enough to understand what awaits you if Hamas wins (God forbid).

Moreover, you will also become an object of hatred because radical Islamists such as Hamas believe in eternal hostility towards Jews and Christians. They interpret the Qur'anic verse ("O you who believe, never take Jews or Christians as friends") as immutable, applicable to all Jews and Christians forever. However, most Muslims believe that this verse depends on a specific context.

Living in a civil society under the rule of Islamists like Hamas is impossible. Islamists unite against a common enemy, but turn on each other when that enemy leaves, as evidenced, for example, by their actions in Afghanistan in the late 1980s. Do you think you're safe?

How can you trust an ideology that has failed its adherents so deeply that they have fled to America, Canada and Europe to seek refuge - only to use the freedom there to engage in activities that will ultimately endanger you too?

Look at those who know how much hatred this ideology instills in your heart, listen to those who have overcome it.

I am trustworthy and understand the region, religion and language. I beg you to wake up because you are next.

With concern, Loai Al-Sharif

(Blogger and linguist from Dubai, supporter of real peace in the Middle East and dialogue of religions).

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I don't think they support Hamas. Palestinians in Gaza do not equal Hamas.

For example, since Biden forced Netanyahu to let in more food. The food situation in both North and South Gaza is much much better. I'm happy about that. That doesn't mean that Biden, Netanyahu and I are wanting to help Hamas.

 

The provocators, instigators are operating via the MB network, Hamas and Iran, Russia to name a few.
I thought that was one of the points l tried to make, those who started the fires and use the images from Gaza. The followers are easily swayed.
Iran and Hamas are applauding and happy with this achieving.
As it has affect on politics and elections in the USA with the goal to influance the relations and support of Israel.
Hamas and Iran are pulling the strings.
Jews in UK, US and other countries have good reason to worry as seeds of hate been sowed.
Catalyst war in ME, Gaza. It's just a trigger.
That's my opinion, I hope I'm wrong.

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/0jOYl_AxvFk?si=VmhnrBsv9ztioO2U

 

YouTube is an absolutely horrible place to get any news, about as reliable as getting your news from a crazy homeless man yelling in the street.

 

Yes! The part of that post that stands out to me is "But if". That fellow looked very young and could have been some fellow sitting there in a Halloween costume. Which is exactly my point that it is not reliable. And even if it is the real thing it doesn't mean that the translation was accurate.

The bottom line though is that it was just some fellow with unknown credentials speculating about the future, which likely isn't very reliable in any case.

 

Some of these protests have become unruly and have taken a turn toward hate and antisemitism.

At Columbia University in New York, protesters shouted, "We are Hamas" and "Go back to Poland." And, on Thursday, a protester at Princeton reportedly held up a Hezbollah terror flag.

 

One can ignore, like many ignored when Hitler came to power.

This UAE
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/13/middleeast/uae-first-arab-nation-holocaust-mime-intl/index.html

Foreign Minister Abdullah Bin Zayed visited Berlin’s main Holocaust memorial in late 2020 with his Israeli counterpart. In 2021, the first Holocaust memorial exhibition in the Arab region opened in Dubai, and last year, the foreign minister made a highly publicized visit to Yad Vashem, where he laid a wreath.

 

Abdullah bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan
is the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the United Arab Emirates. He is a son of the founder of the United Arab Emirates, Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan. In 2020, he was a signatory of the Abraham Accords on behalf of the UAE.