Certified MBA???

The following website is rather interesting.

www.certifiedmba.com

An inquiry on how this certification helps the MBA graduate brought the following response:

This certification lets prospective employers know that the MBA knows the material.

Further inquiry on why this certification was not shared with MBA students brought this response:

Its a fairly new program and word probably hasn't gotten around yet.

Any CMBA's out there?

 

This has been discussed before, but quite interesting. The fee to take the test seem quite high. But like anything else the certification has to catch on.

 

It does sound like an interesting concept. But I couldn't tell who are the founders or managers. There are references to Advisory Councils but the links only say members "will consist of...".

 

It sounds like a money racket to me. I tend to think that my diploma that says "Master of Business Administration" as well as my transcript is all the proof any employer needs to verify that I know the material.

Perhaps some of us should get together and create our own certification process. We can start certifying Ph.D.'s and charge an exhorbitant amount of money.

I've had too much coffee today.

 

How about "Certified US Citizen"? Every US citizen will have to get certified. Can make tons of $$.

 

Continued Learning...CMBA?

I think if the CMBA initiative is directly linked to continued learning or continued competency efforts for MBA program graduates (now in the work force), it can contribute to a better quality of MBA graduates. Of course, it is possible that CBL (Computer Based Learning) options and seminars could achieve the same result.

 

They now have a newsletter online at:

http://www.certifiedmba.com/newsletter/

Interesting quickfacts too

 

Me too.

 

Why not Certified PHD in BA ?

 

Certified MBA and the Association of Certified Masters of Business Administration

I have enjoyed reading your discussion. Let me try to give you some background.

Individual accountability is the cornerstone of the Association of Certified MBAs. As accountability pressure is increased on companies, the pressure will increase on management to be more knowledgeable. Knowledge and cognitive skill across the diverse subject matter of business will not alone make one successful. However, lack of knowledge and skill will limit one's success and growth. The ability to demonstrate one's knowledge and skill to prospective employers is a significant competitive advantage for the MBA who has passed the CMBA exam.

Dr. Paul Muchinsky, noted industrial and organizational psychologist, MBA professor and author, describes what makes a successful employee and how the CMBA examination contributes to the hiring process. Dr. Muchinsky says, "The CMBA lessens the burden on the hiring organization to assess the candidate's skills and knowledge. …the CMBA can attest to the candidate's possession of requisite knowledge and skills. …the CMBA test allows companies to focus their attention on those issues that are uniquely theirs--whether a candidate is a good match with their culture. The CMBA exam certifies a candidate's knowledge and skills, thereby greatly reducing the assessment demands of the organization in evaluating job candidates."

In addition to improving one's individual marketability in a crowded job market, membership in the Association of Certified MBAs (ACMBA) has other benefits. The mission of the Association is to promote the value and increase the awareness of the CMBA designation to the business community while advancing the level of professionalism, community standing, employment opportunities and service of its members in their respective communities. Membership is restricted to MBAs and graduates who pass the CMBA exam, thus demonstrating their mastery of foundation business knowledge. Members enjoy only a conditional status until they earn their Master of Business Administration degree.

The practice of business is a profession, and most other professions have such organizations, which provide oversight and value to their members. These organizations are formed and act independent of the academic community or state licensing organizations, and are focused exclusively on the needs of their members. With committee focus on Ethics, Certification, Advocacy, Partnerships, Evolution and Communication, the ACMBA will add significant value to its members. The ACMBA is the only forum of its type to bring MBAs together to work on common issues regardless of the school or program they attended. It's coming has been long overdue.

I hope this information has been helpful and invite you to review the information on our website www.certifiedmba.com or participate in our discussions at www.mbaassociation.org.

 

Do you have what it takes?

This is a great opportunity to prove you have what it takes! I participated in the Certified MBA exam, and found that it is a through test of the business knowledge required of an MBA graduate. The certification adds value to your skill set, and shows your commitment to graduate level knowledge.

Additionally, all Certified MBA individuals become a member of the Association of Certified MBA’s. Because this association is young, this represents your opportunity to become involved, and help shape the force and direction this certification will take! Below is some info about the CMBA, and the Association’s Newsletter.


Ralph Page MBA, CMBA, MCDBA, MCSE, CCNA



Why are you going through more education to obtain a Masters degree? Is it because you want to differentiate yourself from other Undergraduates?

Business schools are educating a great number of MBA’s, how will you differentiate yourself from them?

The Certified MBA (CMBA) designation, will provide the recognition you seek.

CMBA’s are:

- Knowledgeable, they possess the cognitive skills to do the job,

- Driven, individually prepared and sat for the exam,

- Competitive, seeking to differentiate themselves,

- Confident, confirmed their knowledge and skills,

- Dedicated, to their education in all subjects,

- Resourceful, found a way to get ahead of others,

- Self Reliant, excelled at accomplishing their work.

The CMBA – ONLY assessment that objectively measures an MBA graduate’s mastery of the business fundamentals expected of an MBA. These fundamentals are pulled from the following subject areas: Financial and Managerial Accounting, Finance, Marketing, Operations, Micro and Macro Economics, Organizational Behavior, Quantitative Analysis, and Strategy. This is not an easy certification to obtain, the exam is six hours long, consisting of 240 questions. You must hold an MBA degree or be enrolled in an MBA program, before taking the exam.

To find out more go to:

http://www.certifiedmba.com

 

Is it me, or does it seem to others (especially the moderators) that both of the previous two posts (by first-time posters, no less) violate the commercial advertisement section of DegreeInfo’s TOS?

In the case of Mr. Mebane’s post, a simple introduction and a willingness to answer questions on this forum would have sufficed, and nothing in ralph-p’s post discourages the notion that he (or she) is simply a shill.

 

I personally hope the Certified MBA idea fails, and will do whatever I can at my institution to try to ensure that we ignore it.

 

Certified MBA

I'm very troubled that Gus and oxpecker feel ambivalent about the Certified MBA, and openly invite them to continue with their opinion. Additionally, if they visited the CMBA site they would be able to incorporate more information into their discussion regarding this certification.

My post was an effort to widen the discussion regarding the CMBA designation. Contrary to Gus's assertion that our posts are commercial, Mr. Mebane and myself were responding to posts in this thread that originate in 2001.

Yes, I am promoting the CMBA, I think that it is very worthwhile. I have been actively participating in the Association of CMBA's, a group just recently formed. Our newsletter can be found here:
http://www.certifiedmba.com/newsletter/

Please excuse the intrusion on your sensibilities if these posts cause you any headache.

Ralph Page MBA, CMBA, MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA

 

Give them time. I see you are a Microsoft CERTIFIED Systems Engineer among other titles.

We have Certified Public Accounts, Certified Financial Planners, and IT certifications by the truckloads.

Seems some people love titles. I am a Microsoft Certified Trainer, Certified Technical Trainer, MCSE (NT4 & 2000) among others. I keep these certifications to myself unless business dictates.

No plans at the present to become a certified MBA. My Nova Southeastern U MBA has served me very well as is.

 

I'm not ambivalent at all. I hate the idea. If the CMBA becomes popular (fortunately a very unlikely scenario) then some universities will start to teach to the CMBA requirements. But should curriculum decisions be guided by an external organization with commercial goals -- or by the universities themselves? Popularization of the CMBA would further reduce the differentiation between MBA programs (at least those from non-prestigious institutions). The MBA is already seen as a rather mundane degree -- the Big Mac of graduate programs. I think we should be heading in the other direction -- let's see more creativity, rather than less, in the design of graduate business programs.

I personally would quit if my institution paid attention to the CMBA (though, in truth, quitting would not be a hardship since I'm a part-timer). Heh.

On the other hand, I do see the need for certification in disciplines such as accounting, where specific knowledge and skills are needed. I also see value in certification of vocational skills (MCSE and so on).

 

Re: Certified MBA

You asked a few questions, and in the age-old tradition of this forum, they deserve an answer (even if you are a shill).

This question is a typical of one that promotes an agenda. In your case, the agenda is differentiating yourself from other job candidates. Coincidentally that is also the agenda, or better said, the main selling proposition of the CMBA. I don’t believe the primary reason people pursue graduate studies is to differentiate themselves from undergraduates, and be more competitive against them in an employment situation. I believe (in the context of employment) most people pursue a graduate degree in hopes that will be eligible for positions that those with undergraduate degrees don’t even qualify. The CMBA will not make a job candidate eligible for a position that a MBA would not qualify for; it wouldn’t even make a candidate more qualified for a position that required a MBA.

First, by not being the kind of putz that feels a need to list a bunch of initials and acronyms after his or her name.

Second, MBAs aren’t usually hired for their credentials alone. Most MBA programs require several years of work experience as an admission requirement. As an employer, if an MBA cannot clearly delineate his career goals and business philosophy and persuade me that he or she is a good fit in my organization, he or she simply isn’t hired. In my view, any candidate that stressed he or she was a “certified” MBA, would be demonstrating a clear lack of self-esteem and confidence in their knowledge and experience. Either that, or they are the kind of individual that will do absolutely anything to “get a leg up” on the competition (or their fellow co-workers), and I have no need for back-stabbers that don’t understand the value of teamwork to the success of the organization.

I don’t think a “certification” from an upstart for-profit institution is going to sway a prospective employer. For this “certification” to have any meaning or legitimacy, it would have to be endorsed or accepted (as other professional certifications are) by academia. This is unlikely to happen, as the entire (preposterous) premise is that the business schools are incompetent and turning out graduates without the required skill set.

 

Certified MBA

How did you like the Nova Southeastern U MBA program? I attended Florida Atlantic U in Fort Lauderdale. I really enjoyed their Executive MBA program. There was a group of people who progressed through the 20 month all day Saturday coursework.

I saw the CMBA as a way to show that I had learned just as much, maybe more, than those attending BW top 50 schools.

Good luck in the future,

Ralph Page MBA, CMBA, MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA
- yes a little like alphabet soup...

 

Certified MBA

So therefore the individual with the MBA -- HAS -- differentiated themselves by obtaining the necessary knowledge to obtain higher positions.

Gus, I will not lower myself to your level by using slurs.

Ralph "I'm proud of my certifications and accomplishments" Page
- MBA, CMBA, MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA, and studying for the MCSD

 

Re: Certified MBA

I don’t feel ambivalent about the Certified MBA, and it most gracious of you to invite me (?) to continue with my opinion.

I fail to see how the inception date of this thread contradicts my assertion that your posts are commercial in nature.

OK, I guess you are now admitting that your posts are commercial in nature. Moderators please take note.

They don’t cause a headache, it’s just that they (IMO) are a violation of the TOS of this forum.

If however, you want to really widen the discussion, please answer the following questions.

Do you really think that the CMBA can accomplish its goal of leveling “the playing field for all MBA graduates by emphasizing an individual's business education and neutralizing the influence of graduate program reputation or rank?” In other words, will a MBA from Wharton and a MBA from, say, Hamilton or Kennedy-Western University, really be deemed as equivalent if they both have the CMBA designation? And if so, is that a good thing? For employers? For the graduate of any reputable MBA program?