Well, friends, after two years of dithering, I finally sent my registration and cheque (ouch!) to the University of London LLM program. I will be offering the three criminal law and criminology exams plus admiralty. First two papers next summer! Nosborne, JD
Nosborne: "Well, friends, after two years of dithering, I finally sent my registration and cheque (ouch!) to the University of London LLM program. I will be offering the three criminal law and criminology exams plus admiralty. First two papers next summer!" Cehi: Congratulations, and I wish you all the best in the journey.
Offering? Is that proffering the exams for credit consideration? As a British Admiral in New Mexico, do you get to wear a nifty uniform? Congratulations!
I am "offering" "unseen" examination papers under the stern gaze of "invigilators" as is required by the "programme". You will also note that I sent in a "cheque". (Not really; I used my VISA) Nosborne, JD
What good is it? What GOOD is it?? Why, sir, it is endlessly valuable! (It says here) No, actually, I think it might be useful to me because it seems to concentrate on the sociological end of criminology, theories of crime and punishment, statistical analysis, public policy, and the like. I don't think it's the equivalent of the LLB crim law course which seems to concentrate on the law and practice of England and Wales. Besides, the graduation exercises are in London and my wife wants to go. Nosborne, JD LLM in progress?
"Of legal knowledge I acquired such a grip That they took me in to the partnership; And that junior partnership I weaned Is the only ship that I ever had seen! But that kind of ship so suited me, That now I am the ruler of the Queen's Navy."
I haven't gotten the materials yet so I don't know. Actually, I added Amiralty because the crim specialty comprises only three subject and the degree wants four. Nosborne, JD in progress LL.M.
Yeah, I suppose I don't quite understand why they haven't added a fourth subject to the specialty (God knows, there's plenty of stuff to add!). Please keep us (me, in particular) advised re the materials and your progress.
Nosborne, No, I'm not but am now seriously considering something along those lines. Almost immediately after I received my license in IL, I enrolled in a tax LL.M. (residential) program. I had completed a little more than half of the program when I just got too busy to attend class. About a year and a half ago, I enrolled in an MTAX program and I am now about 1/3 of the way through. One thing I've found problematic is the more I learn (and practice in this area), the more I've discovered that I'm really sick of taxation (practicing, learning, as well as paying). I've always felt comfortable in court and, actually, prefer to be there than drafting docs and otherwise handling taxation issues. Thus, I've been seriously thinking about a complete and thorough change of direction (for good); strictly crim law and litigation. I've read a ton (over the years) on my own and, over the last several months, have been investigating various programs (or programmes). Guess what? Other than your typical Master's in Criminology or Crim Justice (primarily geared toward law enforcement officers and administrators), there aren't any. The exception being the LL.M. offered by UB (nothing against Buffalo but I can't see myself living there for a year). Hence, my interest in the UoL programme and your impression of it.
Homer, You did the same search I did before I settled on the London programme. As you say, there is no American program besides Buffalo. There isn't even an UNACCREDITED crim law LLM. May I suggest as a former public defender that you just "dive in"? Most of the special constitutional, procedural and evidentiary stuff pertaining to criminal practice are best learned in Court with real clients. I'll bet your local PD office is hiring! Nosborne, JD LLM in progress
Nosborne, I guess I shouldn't find the fact that there isn't even an unaccredited program so unusual since, as you stated, the procedural aspects are pretty much experiential. I've represented several clients in court (including a few criminal cases) and there really isn't any substitute for 'having been there'. Anyway, FWIW, the local PD office is actually not hiring but the local prosecutor's office is! to be continued............
Hi Nosborne: I glad you finally committed. Get lotta help. Good OT person make world of difference. Come out decisive. Happy too. (Seriously, congrats and best wishes on your program. Sometimes the only one and the only right one turn out to be the same.)
