UOP running into trouble

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  1. Luv_DL

    Luv_DL New Member

  2. Luv_DL

    Luv_DL New Member

    Sorry, seems like the link is not working. Scroll down on main page and follow the link in the Education Section: NJEA says online college doesn't measure up.
     
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  3. The NJEA is, in my layman's opinion, only a small step above the Mafia in their tactics as they try to intimidate, extort, or bully their way into control over every facet of education from pre-school to graduate school within the Garden State.

    Can't have a school like UoP moving onto their turf and using all of those low-paid adjunct instructors-- they're not likely to join the NJEA and contribute dues, contributing to the association's lobbying power. Other schools might get.. ideas.
     
  4. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    Isn't NJ the home of TESC. Not being critical to TESC but is U of P less credible?
     
  5. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

  6. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Dennis:

    Thomas Edison State College. On the plantation.


    Philadelphia Inquirer:

    "Bought" is a dirty word.

    Academic freedom and a dedication to teaching and research is the first thing you think of when thinking of government schools, no?

    Filthy lucre.

    Profit motive? Competition? Tsk, tsk.
     
  7. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    The old saying, "what's in it for me", applies to the NJEA. I'm quite certain that most of the teachers in NJ would welcome an accredited DL Education program (although UofP is rather expensive).

    The NJEA, like many other teacher unions and organizations, are protective of their own "turf". They don't welcome change very easily. I can see tough times ahead for UofP if the NJEA decides to boycott their degree programs.
     
  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    As is the MTA (Massachusetts Teacher's Association). What gets me about the MTA is that they're always bleating that they're "for the children", yet they threaten to go on strike the minute their contract expires.

    The main reason that teacher's unions can bully & intimidate the public is that if they go on strike, parents may actually have to spend some time with their children. IMO, that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.


    Bruce
     
  9. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    I can't imagine the New Jersey teachers union throwing a picket line around the University of Phoenix's site and threatening to beat up the students and faculty that try to cross. (Perhaps they could get the Teamsters to do that for them.)
     
  10. Originally posted by BillDayson
    I can't imagine the New Jersey teachers union throwing a picket line around the University of Phoenix's site and threatening to beat up the students and faculty that try to cross.

    Originally posted by Bruce
    As is the MTA (Massachusetts Teacher's Association). What gets me about the MTA is that they're always bleating that they're "for the children", yet they threaten to go on strike the minute their contract expires.

    In a recent "labor dispute," the NJEA-represented teachers in a local district struck during the first week of fall classes. The fly in their contract ointment was a desire by the district to extend hours by roughly one hour per week, as well as reduce by approximately 3% the district's health insurance contributions.

    The median salary (not high-- not mean-- median) for teachers in that district was over $69,000. I have no sympathy for a group of "educators" which holds the education of thousands of students hostage over $200-$300 and 40 hours per year.

    (There was picketing. There were also allegations of threats directed at the "scab" substitutes who crossed the lines.)
     
  11. Veteran101

    Veteran101 New Member

    NJEA.

    You go Dennis!
    Boy! do I agree. I lived in Jersey for 10 years. Loved the state, miss the shore, hated the NJEA.
    This organization is one of the worst I have seen in my life. Dennis is correct in his comments.
    The NJEA's tactics has left the average NJ homeowner with a average property tax bite of 7,000 plus per year, and this is for an normal home, not a estate.

    The NJEA has taxed the state into one of the highest per pupil expenditure states in the nation, yet NJ scores in the lower half of the national average on SAT results.

    I guess Rutgers, Ryder, Caldwell, NJIT, etc. are pushing this issue.
    Granted, I am no fan of UoP, but they are RA.
    TESC gets by since it is part of Trenton's cauffers.

    As they say, some things never change. I miss the Garden State out here in the soon to be frozen tundra of Northern Illinois, but my wallet is happy.

    Good Luck NJ. Hold on to your wallets and hope for the best.
     
  12. Illinois faculty are just as watchful of adjunct use.

    The teachers union is trying to get the state legislature to pass a bill limited the use of adjuncts to 50% of total faculty. :cool:

     
  13. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Dennis: Having just deleted the rant I was going to post, let me say that I agree entirely. Go get 'em.
     
  14. 4Q

    4Q New Member

    Re: NJEA.

    You mean to tell me Chicago's Lakefront isn't awesome?

    Granted, it's no ocean and the water is a little nippy year-round. But there are some nice beaches and the view is A#1. Better than any other waterfront city....IMHO, of course!
     

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