Value of online PhDs

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  1. onlinephd

    onlinephd New Member

    How are these online PhD degrees viewed in general?
    Do they hold the same value as B&M degrees?

    I was reading about Touro and they are affiliated w/ Touro College (NY) and through them they got accredited also.
     
  2. Howard

    Howard New Member

    The value of a DL - OnLine degree depends on a variety of factors, however, I cannot think of any instance where the value of an Online - DL degree would even approach that of a B&M PhD.
     
  3. onlinephd

    onlinephd New Member

    so my question then is:
    why are you studying at Capella and considering a PhD?

    I am asking those questions myself?

    btw - how do you like Capella? Are "terms" taken with other students? How much interaction is there w/ others and professors? How much on average do you have to study?

    Thx much
     
  4. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    It depends. In academia, they are not hold in high estime so many members believe that a online PhD from a B&M institution can have better chances of acceptance than a pure virtual university. This is mainly because the prospect employers cannot really know if the degree was earned only online. Examples are NJIT, Nova, Indiana University and Charles Sturt.

    For industry, I believe it won't really matter since most of the jobs don't require a PhD and having it or not is not critical.

    I would suggest an online PhD from a B&M University with some residence in order to make it more credible.
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Re: Value of online PhDs

    I agree with you. I think if you can (all things being equal) do an 'on line' PhD from a B&M school your chances of acceptance are better than from a purely on-line program. Reality is that academia is tight so the market is tough.

    As to onlinePhD's subject heading (value) I woudl say that can be answered on many levels. Is investing 50,000 in a U of Phoenix DBA going to pay off.....maybe maybe not. If you enjoyed the program and got what you wanted out of it (other than $$$$$ returns) it is more likely.

    I am doing a program that I was interested in and is accredited. Cost is right and so is subject matter. I am satisfied. Is it a Dallas Theological Seminary or Fuller DMin.....no but does it have value for me...yes.

    Best advice is to enter a program realizing that it may not pay off financially or even career wise and so is it still useful to meet some need of yours.

    Good luck.

    North
     
  6. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    Good questions - here is my take.

    Regards - Andy



    In my experience on-line (as well as short residency) PhD's are believed to be a second class credential in academic circles. B&M is viewed as better - and B&Ms have classes as well. Of course once you have a doctorate in hand, you have further hurdles to jump - namely, publications - that define how you are viewed.

    Does an on-line PhD have a value? It really depends on your personal circumstances. In my case, a DBA from NSU was the ticket I needed to shift from industry to academic life. I was already teaching as an adjunct at the first school I went to full-time. The dean couldn't hire me full-time, however, until I had a doctorate in hand. Further, he wouldn't have been interested if I didn't have extensive industry experience.

    Since then I've been able to move to a second school. Again, the doctorate was required. Publications were extremely helpful in getting a job as was industry experience.

    Has my NSU DBA been worthwhile? I'd say yes - not only financially, but in terms of quality of life. But will this degree work for the next person? No telling. It really depends on what the person wants - and what other credentials the person has to offer.

    Regards - Andy
     
  7. sulla

    sulla New Member

    First, online degrees depend not only on their format of learning, but also on: reputation of school, type of school, field of study and type of degree.

    UoP has B&M campuses besides their dl programs, but they are seen strictly as a low caliber dl institution.

    Nova is also seen by many in the North as a dl only institution, even if it isn't so.

    Also, keep in mind that there are a lot of hoops to jump in academia. Learning format of the degree is important, but so is the type of degree.
    Some snobby professors will argue that the PhD is THE highest degree, and might not recognize the DBAs or other professional doctorates at the same level (regardless of what some current DBA learners will tell you). Others might not like your disseration topic because it is not congruent with their research.


    In the industry, doctoral degrees might be preferred because of the high popularity of the business degrees, particularly the MBAs.

    More so if they come from Ivy league schools (UCLA or Yale) vs. B&M degrees from lower tiers.

    On average the B&M degrees, or dl from reputable B&M are more recognized and preferred in academia.
    In the industry it depends more in the field of study. A B&M PhD in History or Religious Studies has high value in academia, but little value in the industry. In the field of business, PhDs from B&M schools have more preference, but DBAs might seem more preferable in the industry because of their less research orientation.



    [QUOTE/]I was reading about Touro and they are affiliated w/ Touro College (NY) and through them they got accredited also. [/QUOTE]

    TUI is a branch campus of Touro College.
    Touro College could easily change its name to Touro University in many other states such as Florida. But NY regulations state that an institution has to offer three doctorates in site before being able to call itself a university.

    Still, TUI like with Nova, Capella and UoP, is seen as a dl only by many. If you go to California or Colorado where their med school is, then the perception might be different.
    Otherwise, good school but their business program is very new.

    -S
     

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