Is University Of Phoenix Legit?

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  1. dmnqdv

    dmnqdv New Member

    :confused: I'M WONDERING IF U OF PHOENIX IS LEGIT? IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME HERE, IT WOULD BE APPECIATED..
     
  2. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    Legit? What do you mean with this question?


    Now if you asking if they are accredited, yes they are, by the North Central Association. For more info about the school, you may do a power search above.


    Regards,
     
  3. DCross

    DCross New Member


    I hope so, because that would Fontbonne University would have to revoke my MBA, after having recognized my BS form UoP.

    Is UoP legit.......absolutely, but after having graduated from there, I can tell you that they do many things well, but they are VERY expensive. Plus, you have to deal the the bias some may have towards for profit institutions. I would really look at all my options.
     
  4. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    Yes, the U of P is legit....but I can certainly understand your concern. This university advertises so much that it tends to make one wonder. It has been likened to the McDonald's of higher education (with 4-star prices, that is).

    Cy
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Yes it is accredited. It may not get much respect for academics, etc but you will have an accredited degree.

    With some searching you may find more affordable & higher tier options.

    North
     
  6. It depends

    That all depends. The school definitely possesses recognized accreditation. However, there seems to be quite a few complaints filed against UoP at Badbusinessbureau.com and other consmer protection websites such as the Better Business Bureau. You may want to check with some consumer protection agencies to get a better idea.

    I would personally recommend Touro, Capella, or even a DETC school over UoP. I have heard great things from Capella and Touro students.

    Good luck!
     
  7. Mustang

    Mustang New Member

    I am presenting enrolled in the Masters of Arts in Organziational Managment Program with the University of Phoenix (Online). I am in my eighth class with 6 more to go to finish.

    I have been pleased everyone that I have dealt with at UOP. I have heard some stories but have not experienced them myself. The classes are challenging but not impossible.

    As mentioned by others, there are probably cheaper programs with the same quality or maybe better. I don't know. I think a significant number of people slam the UOP because of the marketing techniques that they use. I won't attempt defending them because I don't particularly like it either. If you would like additional information on UOP Online, please let me know. I think I have figured it out now.

    Best of luck
     
  8. DCross

    DCross New Member

    Re: It depends


    Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, slow your roll there Chief. I don't know if I would take it that far. While there are better options, I would ABSOLUTELY NOT choose a DETC school over UoP. The complaints on the site you mentioned are pretty inflammatory, but don't seem valid. One guy compains about the group meetings, another about the need for a credit card, and another who thinks their instructors have no credit?

    Let's not forget that they are the largest private school in the U.S.
    Having so many students, and being a non traditional school, they are bound to get many complaints.

    There are better options. Then again.....there are worse. the best DETC school is worse.
     
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I have to agree with DCross about the DETC thing. U of P is likely a better option than a DETC degree from the point of utility. Putting all of the allegations about U of P's academics and grade inflation aside, U of P is REGIONALLY ACCREDITED. Like it or not it has more utility.

    Truly, U of P meets the needs of many students and has even caused some universities to adjust their procedures to become more 'working student friendly' (mini semesters, etc) in order to compete. U of P has been marketing genius.

    North
     
  10. Ike

    Ike New Member

    Re: Re: It depends

    I concur completely.
     
  11. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    University of Phoenix is, without doubt, a legitimate university. UoP represents an educational model that frightens many traditional universities. Its industry-oriented marketing approach rubs many in academe the wrong way.

    I have know several UoP graduates that are gainfully employed and have been happy with their degrees. There is room in higher education for all types of models. UoP is definately not for everyone, but it seems to serve it particular segment well.

    Tony Piña
    Faculty, CSU San Bernardino
     
  12. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Cyrus: "This university advertises so much that it ...has been likened to the McDonald's of higher education..."

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    Would you like to supersize that degree and enroll for the doctorate?

    Note: the fact that Phoenix' parent company, Apollo, has bought all the Sylvan Learning Centers seems like a giant step toward cradle-to-grave Phoenix-style marketing.
     
  13. Oherra

    Oherra New Member

    You mean the masters isn't on the dollar menue ?
     
  14. dmnqdv

    dmnqdv New Member

    Recommendations

    Can anyone give me a good recommendation for a good online criminal justice degree program? U of P is a little too expensive......any other suggestions?:confused:
     
  15. I am not completely sure whether or not the best DETC school is better than UoP; you may be right. HOwever, in terms of utility in the professional world, you could be wrong. Everyone knows that UoP is an online virtual school. On the other hand, since DETC schools do not advertise as heavily, employers may view them in a better light than UoP.

    I do agree that RA degrees enjoy more utility. I also agree that the best DETC schools are nowhere near as good as the best RA schools. However, in terms of learning outcomes, I feel that even the worst DETC schools are better than the worst RA schools. For instance, I firmly believe that Cheyney University is one of the worst academic institutions in the world. Many will disagree, until they walk on to the campus.

    One Cheyney grad Student said, and I quote: weez give ru-al pennsavanyens a lil taste o compton, west syyde". The campus is so dangerous that a local pizza shop owner paid the delivery drivers to obtain PA licenses to carry firearms. This lasted until the security officers agreed to escort drivers to the dorm rooms.

    I could be wrong, but I do not see how any learning can go on in such a dangerous environment where average students can not speak proper english. This school may or may not serve some sort of limited purpose. Either way, it in no way is superior to ANY DETC school. I can't imagine that these students are able to wake up in time for class without their daily crack rock, let alone self motivate for DETC exams.

    This is just my opinion, and I am entitled to it.
     
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  16. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Wow! OK. Uh, on second thought, never mind. :D
     
  17. What's that Gus? Care to elaborate? Or is that just another Degreeinfo.com smart remark? I guess only the usuals will get the joke.
     
  18. wfready

    wfready New Member

    I don't think Gus was giving a Smart "degreeinfo" remark, RoyalBlueChief. You kind of hit us off guard with the bitter post regarding Cheyney University and its proper English speaking challenged grads.

    Granted, this school may not be the IDEAL learning environment considering what you said, however, the education they give apparantly is good enough to receive RA accreditation right? Just the school's in a bad part of town doesn't mean the teaching is going to be bad. There could be really good teachers at the school. As for the West cyyyyde grads? Just because they talk like morons doens't mean they are. Maybe the Cheyney grad that you heard was a math major (they are never really good at english right?). Besides, educated or not, he probably was still young. Kids do and say wierd things (he probably thought it sounds cool).

    Quality education can be had from many different environments. I have two students in a class I am taking right now that have been deployed to the middle east recently. They still do their assignments and occasionally post on the course site. Sailors and Marines have been taking college courses on floats for a long while (not exactly an ideal environment for learning either). Just my two cents.

    dmnqdv,

    Troy State University has a distance learning program with a criminal justice major. They are fairly cheap ($130 per semester hour). I am currently enrolled in two courses there (I am doing the BS comp science program) and, so far, I think its pretty good (they use blackboard). Alot cheaper than UOP.

    Best Regards,
    Bill
     
  19. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    So, I'm not the only person who has noticed that math majors can't write worth a darn!!! ;) :D
     
  20. Bill,

    You make some great points, but I feel that you are wrong about the aforementioned school. This is because the above referenced school is located in a rural/suburban Pennsylvania area; not a bad neighborhood. Surrounding the institution is farmland, and houses valued at over $500,000. In my opinion, the only thing this school needs is an electrified fence to keep the often violent student body away from the local population. Then, we could turn the campus into a prison and save tax payers money.

    You're right though, this school did achieve regional accreditation, but I do not believe it should have. In fact, my opinion of this school is so low that I don't think it would meet the accreditation standards of the "dubious" World Association, let alone the DETC or ACICS.

    Although their intentions are probably good, I believe that the MSA accredited this school for all the wrong reasons. For instance, this brick and mortar state school is one of the only nearby African American Universities, and has been around for quite a long time. It is very possible that the accreditor is afraid that if they were to deny accreditation, they of would be viewed in a bad light. However, in spite of what are probably good intentions, I feel that until Regionals are willing to deny accreditation to schools like this, we should not be holding RA in such high regard.

    Again, these are just my opinions. However, my opinions are based on actual experiences, and the word of former students who left because they felt it was impossible to learn in such an environment.
     

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