Question for TUI PhD Students

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  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Ohhh the uncertainty after pouring many person hours and thousands of dollars into my program. :( :confused:

    Now that I find myself in a problematic position with regard to my doctoral program I have a question for anyone in TUI's PhD program.

    -How do you like the program.
    -Are there any problem areas.
    -Is there any way to reduce the 2000 per course tuition rate.
    -How well do they work with you regarding coursework, dissertation proposal, etc.

    Did the PhD in Health Sciences go from a 40 hour program to a 52?

    Thanks.

    North
     
  2. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    Change of heart? Is okay I have many of those! If you don't mind me asking the reason for the change?
     
  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Re: Question for TUI PhD Students

    Well, I am greatly enjoying the doctoral program and have found it more practical than my secular MA (48 cr) program in Counseling. It met my needs for an accredited doctorate in a field I was interested in and was approved for gov't loans and grants.................and then the bump in the road (maybe large pothole is a better description).

    There is another thread here that notes that when TRACS made their re-affirmation of accreditation visit to ACCS the end result was a denial. ACCS has the right to appeal and remains accredited through the appeal process which will culminate in a Nov 03 appearance before the TRACS board at their annual meeting. If they lose the appeal then degrees issued after the Nov 03 will be unaccredited.....if they win then that is another story. As I understand it TRACS does not have a probation period like other accreditors.

    I do not know all of the details. Apparently, the previous administration at ACCS handed off the self study and other stuff and then retired. There were balls thqat were dropped. One of them had to do with the required endowment. As I understand it, TRACS requires schools to have a certain endowment in relation to the numbers of students and operating budget. After accreditation ACCS grew significantly and so did its budget. I guess its endowment did not. Sudeenly, students and alumni got an emergency (last minute) fund raising appeal noting this requirement for their upcoming visist from TRACS and that they did not have it. I don't know what else fell through the cracks.

    As I should graduate in Dec or Jan (just after the vote) I was in shock. I realize that the good thing as far as TRACS is concerend is that they are obviously doing their job.

    North
     
  4. LeeKay500

    LeeKay500 New Member

    North,
    You may want to take a close look at Trinity International University, Divinity School (the good Trinity). I too am in the D.Min. program at ACCS. Before I started, I wanted to cover all my bases, and corresponded with TIU - D.Min. program and asked if they would accept credits from ACCS. They said they would accept credits from ACCS; depending upon the credits, they may be elective credits. One of my friends completed the D.Min. at TIU; he already had a Ph.D., and was impressed with the quality of TIU D.Min. program. The cost is reasonable, but they do require a limited time on campus.

    Lee
     
  5. Harijan

    Harijan New Member

    It was still a 40 hour program when I enrolled. TUI provides a discount for members of the military reserves/active duty forces. Since the cost includes everything, it really is not a bad deal in my opinion.
     
  6. Bao

    Bao Member

    I do not know much about the PhD program in Health Sciences. I am a PhD student in the business administrations program. TouroU does offer their PhD students teaching assistant assignments that pay $1,500 per class. If you have time to make extra money for tuitions and expand your teaching experiences, it is not a bad deal. Call Dr. Edith F. Neumann who is the dean of Health Sciences program. I spoke with her a few times and found that she was very candid. I believe that she will explain to you in details of other opportunities in the PhD program in Health Sciences. Good lucks.
     
  7. tesch

    tesch New Member

    North,

    I enjoyed the Ph.D. program and found it both highly interesting and rewarding. Like any program, however, what you put into it is what you will get back out. The rubber really meets the road when it comes to the dissertation proposal and dissertation process. Accordingly, if one does not give 100% during the coursework phase (which helps develop and refine your scholarly research skills), he or she will likely struggle with the candidacy and dissertation phases. It is a very doable program, but hard work and commitment is required.

    In terms of problem areas (weaknesses), I would like to see additional library resources. However, I did observe the quantity and quality of library resources rapidly increasing during my dissertation phase. Accordingly, this is much less of an issue today.

    Regarding tuition. The out of pocket cost of a course could be significantly reduced if you apply for, and receive, an appointment as a Graduate Assistant.

    Finally, I must say that my experience with the faculty was good. In particular, my dissertation advisors and chair were highly credentialed, published, and experienced. Indeed, I could not have found a better committee, in terms of relevant subject matter expertise, even if compared to the best top-ranked universities. My advisors and chair were very experienced and well published in the topical area of my research.

    Reference the number of credit hours. I understand that if you have a health science related masters degree, 44 credits are required for the coursework. Up to 6 additional courses (24 credit hours) may be required if the student does not have a health science related degree or previous statistics course. An additional 8 credit hours are earned per term during the dissertation continuation phase, which is at a substantially reduced cost per credit hour.

    I hope this helps.

    Tom
     
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  8. Steve King

    Steve King Member

    North,

    I think Tom's answered all of your questions. I have also been very impressed with the Ph.D. program at TUI. To add to Tom's comments, I have found that in addition to the faculty many of my fellow doctoral students and candidates have been published already. In the Health Sciences program, many are already professional researchers. My educational advisor has been great. I had to take this semester off (to get married) and my advisor called and e-mailed me to let me know that registration had begun for the following semester. She provided advice and some options on registering for my next class and asked how the wedding plans were coming! The level of personal service and attention has been better than anything I ever had as an undergraduate at a B&M university. I really feel like Touro wants me to succeed in their program.

    All of Tom's other comments are right on the money. TUI offers a military discount and if you can get a GA position, your tuition is greatly reduced. The Ph.D. program has been more challenging than the MBA program I completed at TUI, but that's to be expected. My fellow students have offered some pretty innovative and thoughtful comments to the Threaded Discussion boards for class. So far, it is shaping up to be a very good program.

    As for a "problem area," the only concern I have is how long the program will take compared to some international programs (like Australia and South Africa). But, I think TUI is in line with other US programs in terms of length and I bet I am learning a lot more than I would in a shorter program.
     

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