TESC Surprise

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Christopher Green, Apr 14, 2003.

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  1. Christopher Green

    Christopher Green New Member

    Knights of the Mighty Forum~~~

    I'm having a moment.

    I just found out that all of the courses that I submitted portfolio to at TESC are clear just fine, however, they decided to put different prefixes on the courses than the school for which I petitioned equivalency. Is this standard practice????

    One more time to make it clear (with an example): I submitted a portfolio @ TESC for the equivalency of credit earned in "Eng 423 Early American Lit" at Cal State Fullerton. It came back approoved as "Lit 111 Early American Lit." Does TESC change the course number like this always? I needed to get this course to fulfill an upper level credit requirement at Excelsior and they can't use it that way because of what TESC did.

    Overall, submitting portfolio credit at TESC is the best way to get academic credit, but you have to put up with this kind of crap all the time. They have been miniscule help.

    Chris
     
  2. Hille

    Hille Active Member

    TESC

    Hi Chris, Have is changed at TESC. The course number makes a difference. I imagine the error came when the person who judged it used a TESC prefix. Hille
     
  3. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    If I read this correctly, there are two issues here.

    The first is the "rubric" -- the 3 or 4-letter designation of subject area, such as ENG (or ENGL) vs. LIT. This changes from school to school, and in itself means nothing.

    However, the course number DOES matter, in two ways. There are two very significant items that are encoded in the course number -- the level (upper or lower division) and the number of semester credit hours. Although this is certainly no standards for this, it would seem that the LIT 111 course is a lower division, 1 credit course. So, changing the number for the course can be siginificant, if it misrepresents either the level of the course, or the appropriate number of credits.

    I don't know if the example you gave was a real case, but if so, it looks like both the level and credits are not accurate.
     
  4. Christopher Green

    Christopher Green New Member

    S' a real case man. S' s'what I'm sayin'.
     
  5. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    Then you got a real problem, mon. I and I no not how to help. Suggestion' you give ole TESC a call on your telephone.
     
  6. Hille

    Hille Active Member

    Hi chris, Fax the error and send a hard copy of the discrepancy to the portfolio advisor and any other person in charge...I would also try the registrar. Hille
     
  7. Christopher Green

    Christopher Green New Member

    Interesting

    I just found out that TESC "ALWAYS" does this... they replace the course titles and #'s with their prefix and # on the course. So my Early American Literature, ENG 435 at Cal State U. Fullerton will be destined to be Lit 111 at TESC at the outset.

    They said they "always" do this.

    I'm having to petition to the academic dean because the course # is what makes my course upper level credit, which is why I did it in the first place, to take care of upper level credit @ Excelsior.

    ****Future generations be advised that when you do portfolio credit at TESC it may get arbitrarily changed from upper to lower level credit****

    I will keep the board posted as to their hearing of my case.

    Chris
     
  8. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    It's certainly not surprising that they change the course rubric and number to match their own system. It's really no big deal, *UNLESS* they also change the level and the number of credit hours awarded. If that is the case, there should be some kind of crosswalk or at least a directive to let you know what the course will be translated to beforehand. But I thought that the point was that you got the same type and amount of credit as the course you attempted. Perhaps not.
     
  9. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    Re: Interesting

    Excelsior College says about its own policies: "For example, Principles of Management, Cultural Anthropology, and Art of the Western World are always considered lower-level, no matter what course number the offering college assigns to the course."
    ( http://www.excelsior.edu/la_faqs.htm )

    Perhaps you've run into something similar at Thomas Edison?
     
  10. Hille

    Hille Active Member

    Portfolios

    Good Morning, I think there was an error in the paperwork on your portfolio. This error would be on the TESC side. If your portfolio was numbered and course was listed with date I think it was purely clerical. I hope it doesn't take you to long to get it straightened out. My daughter will be launching some 1 credit graduate portfolios shortly. They can only be evaluated for the credit she is attempting, nothing else. Have a peaceful weekend. Hille
     

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