Down to three choices DBA/DBL

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Lajazz947, Apr 12, 2003.

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  1. Lajazz947

    Lajazz947 New Member

    After ALLOT of research I have finally broken down my choices (not in any order) for my DBA.

    University of Glasgow
    Edinburgh

    and UNISA for the DBL degree.

    UNISA is obviously the least expensive of the three and maybe the most difficult to gain acceptance to but it holds great interest to me. Glasgow's program seems the most applicable due to the work related nature of the program and Edinburgh just seems so traditionally British that it also has great appeal.

    Glasgow has informed me that I would be accepted based on my CV, waiting to hear from the others.

    I know that there are no concrete answers but has anybody had experience with any of these three programs?

    I am looking to start in late 2004 or early 2005 but I don't think that it is ever too early to start planning.

    Rafael

    BS Western state University, Fullerton, CA
    JD " " ( ABA )
    MBA Pepperdine, Malibu, CA
    MS Kansas State University, KS ( 2003 )
    DBA ( looking )
     
  2. vical

    vical New Member

    Interesting choices. I am also looking at UNISA and Glasgow. Yet to receive my info package from them. What is it about them that attracts you?
     
  3. Tommy Fisher

    Tommy Fisher New Member

    cost

    What's the total tuition for an DBA at UNISA? I maybe interested. Also, I need the contact information.
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I just got an e-mail from EBS re: their DBA. The cost of the program is 900 pounds per course, 11 courses, plus 1200 pounds for your dissertation proposal and 4,000 pounds per year during the dissertation. Assuming two years for the dissertation and a 1.57:1 exchange rate, were talking about 30 grand for the DBA. And that assumes you pass each of the 11 course exams on the first try. (Re-tries are 100 pounds each.)

    I don't know what the Glasgow program costs, but I think it's comparable.

    But cost isn't the whole story. The Glasgow and EBS programs are "taught" degrees; UNISA is a research degree that might contain some taught components, depending on the study plan you work out with your advisor.

    UNISA never seems all that interested in taking on Americans; EBS and Glasgow are actively recruiting people into their programs, including Americans. That makes it seem like the process will be more reasonable and not filled with the unwritten mysteries that often accompany dealing with foreign schoos.
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: cost

    UNISA doesn't offer the DBA. The offer the doctorate in leadership or in commerce.

    The costs are low (a couple of thousand per year, IIRC). But costs aren't the problem; navigating through their murky processes is.
     
  6. Denver

    Denver Member

    I too looked at the above-mentioned programs before I started my part-time DBA at ESC Grenoble ($8400 per year, 3 years, program in English, one week residency at main campus, EQUIS accredited, Grand Ecole, etc.). Since my dissertation is on the demand for part-time doctorial programs, I may be contacting some of you in the near future as part of my research. I’ve noticed geographical location seems to be playing as an important role in some decisions (please no French jokes) as price. Since most of the degree is going to be completed away from the main campus, any comments on the reasons behind this?
     
  7. vical

    vical New Member

    After weeks of trying to get a straight answer from UNISA I too wonder if they want students from the USA. I am interested in the DBL program but the number of required trips to SA is an issue.

    How is your search going?
     
  8. Lajazz947

    Lajazz947 New Member

    UNISA

    Vical,

    After sending an E mail to [email protected].z I was sent an application. I have also been E mailing with John Craparo who has shown interest in helping. The other website from the Canadian outfit that has been discussed here before seems to have allot of info also.

    The latest communication from Unisa states that they will be accepting applications after July 1st. As for the travel requirements I am starting to realize that everything is negotiable with these programs so don't let anything deter you. Keep on asking and suggesting alternatives.

    Regards,

    Rafael
     
  9. manjuap

    manjuap New Member

    Did you look at Australian Universities? USQ, Charles Stuart and other universities have 100% distance DBA's.
     
  10. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    This looks like an excellent program, is it the same as the one that is mentioned in this link?

    http://www.ncl.ac.uk/nubs/postgrad/management/taught_degrees/dba/#1dba

    ESC Grenoble has a good reputation in Canada and the price is very competitive. The one week requirement looks like an excellent way to get to know your supervisor. Itt seems to be offered with an australian university, Do you have to travel to Australia as well? who will confer you the degree?

    Regards,

    Rfvalve
     
  11. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: cost

    It also offers the D.Comm (Doctor of Commerce), the DBL is more management oriented and it is a general degree. The D.Comm is more specific and research oriented.

    The problem with UNISA degrees is that their names are not according to american standards. But the same thing happens with the DBA in Canada since not many universities offer it (Only sherbooke U.), most of the people that I know with a DBA refer themselves as PhDs since people wouldn't know what is a DBA. Some french universities offer the "Doctorat en administration" that should be traslated as DBA but the University would traslate it as PhD.
     
  12. vical

    vical New Member

    What are the costs and travel requirements for an Australian DBA?
     
  13. manjuap

    manjuap New Member

    See the below link for Charles Stuart PHD/DBA

    http://www.csu.edu.au/division/internat/frame_fee.htm

    COMMERCE 2903BA 020099G Doctor of Business Administration Albury/Bathurst/Wagga Wagga February/July 3 Years $ 12,500

    COMMERCE 2901AA 016829A Doctor of Philosophy Albury/Bathurst/Wagga Wagga February/July 3 Years $ 12,500


    Its AUD12,500.00 Most of the time it will be 1/3 rd of US tuition.

    Go to www.usq.edu.au for USQ fees.

    I dont think there is any residency requirements (no travel required!).
     
  14. vical

    vical New Member

    So unless I am missing something the total fees for the entire three year program is about $8,000 ?

    Worth a look! Thanks
     
  15. manjuap

    manjuap New Member

    As per the website thats seems to be true !
     
  16. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member


    The DBA at USQ is about 23K AUD. However, I feel that the UK universities that you mentioned have a much better reputation than USQ or Charles Sturt. T
     
  17. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    I love the comments about Charles "Stuart" University. Presumably this is named after Bonnie Prince Charlie, Jacobite pretender. Many Scottish connections in this thread!

    Lajazz947 refers to "Edinburgh," but presumably does not mean the illustrious University of Edinburgh, but rather the less distinguished (though still acceptable) Heriot-Watt?

    I agree with RFValve that Glasgow (a prestigious Scottish university) and Heriot-Watt (a middle-of-the-pack Scottish university) have a better reputation than USQ and Charles Sturt (both bottom-tier Aussie universities). Though British higher education is rapidly sinking into an abyss of mediocrity (or worse), so this reputation may not last.
     
  18. Charles

    Charles New Member

    S - T - U - R - T

    "The Explorer

    The name of the University honours the noted explorer, soldier and public servant Charles Sturt.

    Sturt arrived in New South Wales in 1827. His major achievement was as an explorer of inland Australia. He was particularly associated with explorations of the Macquarie, Lachlan, Murrumbidgee, Darling and Murray river system - the principal rivers serving the region which the University has been established to serve.

    These rivers, with their water conservation and irrigation projects, sustain the dynamic communities and rich agricultural industries that, in turn, support the University.

    Commenting on his own commitment to exploring the interior of New South Wales, Sturt wrote:

    A wish to contribute to the public good led me to undertake those journeys which cost me so much. I should exceedingly regret it if it were thought that I had volunteered hazardous and important undertakings for the love of adventure alone . . . . though in no case could a career more honourable than that of discovery have been open to me when in 1827 I landed on Australian shores.

    I sought that career, not, I admit, without a feeling of ambition as should ever pervade a soldier's breast, but chiefly with an earnest desire to promote the public good, and certainly without any hope of any other reward than the credit due to the successful enterprise.

    It is appropriate that the University has chosen the phrase "For the Public Good" as its motto."

    http://www.csu.edu.au/about/charles/explor.htm
     
  19. vical

    vical New Member

    From UNISA regarding the DBL:

    "You could only visit us three times, but if any of your presentations is not accepted you will have to present it again We cannot compromise on uor requirements "

    Don't mind going to RSA. The chance to experience different countries and ideas is part of the reason I want a foreign degree. It is the travel time and cost that makes me hesitate.
     
  20. Denver

    Denver Member

    1. “This looks like an excellent program, is it the same as the one that is mentioned in this link?

    http://www.ncl.ac.uk/nubs/postgrad/...grees/dba/#1dba

    ESC Grenoble has a good reputation in Canada and the price is very competitive. It seems to be offered with an Australian university, Do you have to travel to Australia as well? “


    A. The site you mention above is a joint degree program. My program is a pilot program offered by the school and has yet to be included on the main site:

    http://www.grenoble-em.com

    The program requires a week in France (we go during Thanksgiving) and the professors come to New Orleans for 10 days each summer. The rest of the program is via videoconference, net meeting, voice and email.

    2. “The one week requirement looks like an excellent way to get to know your supervisor.”

    A. Yes it is. Also, your supervisor may even come to the U.S. for the summer seminar – which means that you have two long periods to discuss research. The school also may assign more than one supervisor – many in my group have two.

    3. “Who will confer you the degree?”

    A. My degree will be conferred by Grenoble Ecole de Management/Grenoble Graduate School of Management. (the school is in the process of changing the name from ESC Grenoble).

    4. “… price is very competitive”

    A. For now it is. Since this is a pilot program the school is offering a $2000 per year grant for those in the pilot program. This grant will also be offered to those that apply through June of this year. Therefore, the tuition is $8400 after the grant.

    If you have any specific questions I will be glad to answer them either on the board or though email. The school has indicated that they would like to add another class for the November seminar – so let me know if you are interested. I also have the application for the pilot program (not available yet on the main site) in Word that I will be glad to forward to you.
     

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