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Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Dave Wagner, Apr 2, 2003.

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  1. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Who can resist this SPAM I received this morning? Why settle for a fake high school diploma when I can get a fake bachelors degree for 1K more? ;-)

    Cheers,

    Dave

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  2. 4Q

    4Q New Member

    I wouldn't worry about it too much. They're not gonna "sell" too many diplomas until they lower their prices a notch or two...
     
  3. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    Let me see if this algebraic equation answers your question:

    (no classes)+(no text books)+(no tests) minus $4,400.00 = (no job) + (no future)/criminal record

    :D
     
  4. cehi

    cehi New Member

    Roy: "Let me see if this algebraic equation answers your questi0n: (no classes)+(no text books)+(no tests) minus $4,400.00 = (no job) + (no future)/criminal record."

    Cehi: A very good algebraic formula of carefulness for the wise. Good job.
     
  5. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    4Q: "I wouldn't worry about it too much. They're not gonna "sell" too many diplomas until they lower their prices a notch or two..."

    John: If only that were so. This Romanian-based American-owned spammer has sold more than 100,000 diplomas in the US (including medical), and has taken in well over $100 million -- not even counting their very profitable counterfeit drivers license business.
     
  6. kevingaily

    kevingaily New Member

    Including medical degrees? Wow, that is crazy. What if one of these jokers got a job in a hospital and attempted to diagnose, treat or operate on someone? There definately should be laws passed to get these fake degree mills. I can understand that there is some argument between accrediting practices, but to out-right buy a degree is preposterous! :eek:


    Kevin
     
  7. Mike Albrecht

    Mike Albrecht New Member

    Naiveté, oh naiveté, how wonderful and refreshing.

    If you are interested I have title to some property at Siesta Key in Sarasota, FL that I inherited from my grandmother, that I would like to sell you. At low tide it is only 150 ft from the water line (of course at high tide it is 300 ft, but why quibble). Interested?
    :rolleyes:
     
  8. Michael Lloyd

    Michael Lloyd New Member

    I work as a medical malpractice consultant. Theoretically, between the requirements of satisfying a state licensing board and a hospitals' credentialing committee, no physician should be practicing in a US hospital without a valid medical degree issued from a valid medical school. This includes direct contact with the medical school, and not accepting paperwork provided by the physician.

    Note my use of the word 'theoretically'. There have been well-documented cases in which people have made up their own paperwork and gotten licenses. There are also well-documented cases in which people have just opened their own office or walked into the hospital off the street without even bothering to run a degree, transcript and license off the laser printer.

    But because of these cases, medical licensing no longer runs primarily on trusting the physician to tell the truth. Verification is the way things are done now. I am not sure what can be done about the people who practice without a license, particularly in the office-based setting where there is little, if any, oversight.

    Regards,

    Michael Lloyd
    Mill Creek, Washington USA
     
  9. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    KevinGaily writes:

    > What if one of these jokers got a job in a hospital and
    > attempted to diagnose, treat or operate on someone?


    You haven't read or seen Catch Me If You Can or The Great Impostor? Both Frank Abagnale and Ferdinand Waldo Demara got jobs as doctors (as well as both pulling off an astounding variety of another impersonations).

    Abagnale got a supervisory job in a hospital, and never did any operations: he let his interns and nurses make all the decisions.

    But Demara was the sole doctor on a Canadian military ship, and when some badly injured people were brought aboard, Demara operated on them, and they all survived! After the most difficult operation, Demara's assistant exclaimed, "He's going to live! It's a miracle." Demara replied, "You don't know how much of a miracle."

    Read the books or see the movies if you can. Great fun.
     
  10. kevingaily

    kevingaily New Member

    I'm quite aware of fake degrees and hardly consider myself ignorant, but my supprise was that someone could get away with a fake degree in the medical field that wouldn't be verified. A half-way bright person may get away with many things, but a doctor or nurse? There are so many ways to mess up. Give a man improper meds and it could seriously harm him. I have a brother and two sisters in the medical field. All three are RN's. Also, my wife is a surgical floor secretary. Even she has to have a fair amount of knowledge as far as proper proceedures, medical terminology, etc.. This isn't just about faking people out, but it could cost a life, or lives. I guess I feel so passionate about it because of having a bunch of family members in the medical field.


    Take care!


    Kevin
     
  11. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    Sure...haven't you heard of a medical practice run by doctors Frankenstein and Hyde. Their motto: an uneducated patient is our best customer.:cool:
     
  12. Medical degree is only one requirement. The person has to pass licensing examinations that are very rigorous and MD from well accredited universities have hard time to pass this exams and many retake the tests several times.

    A person with fake degree will fail taking this exams.
    Maybe a dropout from medical school in his final year can have a chance on passing this exams.

    Thanks God we have this O. A system

    In Russia for example Accredited State University that has Attestation Certificate from Ministry of Education can issue State format degree that enables a person to practice professions.


    Mikhail
     
  13. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    Dennis Roark

    > Medical degree is only one requirement. The person has to
    > pass licensing examinations that are very rigorous [...].
    > A person with fake degree will fail taking this exams.


    You're too trusting of the system. Read the story of Dennis Roark:

    http://www.freep.com/news/mich/qdoc3.htm
     
  14. kevingaily

    kevingaily New Member



    Hi Mikhail,

    Is this system universal? What are the chances that this bogus degree could be used in an underdeveloped country where there is less stringent checks & balances?


    Kevin
     
  15. Kevin,

    Its a good point, no this is not universal and we read all the time about cases like this, the Canadian guy in New Zealand, etc.
    One can be traveling overseas and get sick, next thing he is
    operated by bogus MD

    Or driving on a bridge that collapses because of some bogus professional.

    This can be very dangerous.

    Thanks for the post.
     
  16. MarkIsrael Wow !!!

    I read the story and shocked.

    The system is not bulletproof and con man can by-pass it.

    Still its a good guard dog and reduces the fraud significantly.

    Thanks for posting the link to that story.

    Mikhail
     

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