Estonia DL

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by KKA, Jan 31, 2003.

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  1. KKA

    KKA Member

  2. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    To those of us who had contacts with the Baltic States during the terrible years, this is an extraordinarily moving thing to see. Thanks KKA.
     
  3. triggersoft

    triggersoft New Member

    ...though they don´t really provide information about the DL, do they?

    I couldn´t find anything except for the degrees themselves...

    Greets,
    T.
     
  4. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    This is a very interesting happening in DL. I have already inquired for some additional information. I noticed that for those interested in religious type studies that they offer the Th.D.

    John
     
  5. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    Wow, right here in my own backyard...
    I really hadn't looked at Tartu Univ web site in quite awhile. It is a two hour drive (in the summer, much longer in the bitter winter) so residence classes weren't convenient. I noticed that it appears that only a couple of classes were in English (though I only looked briefly, there may be many more).
    This is an excellent school. Most educated people in Estonia went there, including our MDs and Dentist. Very presitgious institution in these parts.

    I would be interested to hear what those of you pursuing this find out.

    clint
     
  6. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    FWIW, the kroon is trading at about 14 to the US$.
     
  7. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    With Doctoral degree programs in both Philology and Semiotics, this could be a real alternative to those people seeking PhDs in related areas (Sociology, Philosophy, etc.). Nice find K (or should I say KK?) ;)
    Jack
     
  8. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member


    How many kroon to the kroner?
     
  9. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

  10. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    And steadily dropping...

    when we visited here in June 2001 the US$ was at about 18.1 to 1. We planned for 17 to 1. When we arrived in June 2002, it was down to 16.25 to 1, and has eroded to 14.2 to 1 as of now...

    I don't know if we have reached the bottom or not (I know that a few years ago it was 11 to 1)...

    clint
     
  11. Yes, When I was in Tallinn in June 2001, the Kroon was at about 10 Kroons per Canadian dollar, 11 if I cashed in travellers cheques. When I went back in December, 2001 it was similar. And it had dropped in October 2002 when I was there for the third time. My hunch is that will drop further, and should Estonia get involved with the Euro, now that they are soon to join the EEC, we will also see the local prices most definitely rise (while most of the people continue to work for low wages).
    Earon (whose wife lives in Tallinn awaiting a visa for Canada)
     
  12. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    Are you planning on being back anytime soon? We had some friends from Canada living here until last August. Some others are planning on visiting for a few weeks this next summer.

    It is strange how differently the government of Estonia treats folks from Canada compared to those from the USA. We (from USA) have an unlimited number of living visas and work visas that are available to us, while people from Canada must fit into a quota system. I would have expected both countries to be treated in the same way, but I guess not....

    I could say more and more, but then it would just mover further off topic... so I will refrain for now.

    clint
     
  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    The other way around, no? If the dollar is buying fewer of a currency now (14.2:1) compared to then (18.1:1), then it would be the dollar dropping. (It is 14.53:1 at this moment.)
     
  14. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    You are correct, of course. It is the dollar that is dropping. The EEK (Estonian Kroon) is rising.

    BTW, you can take the exchange you see on the big web sites like xe.com and subtract .10 to .20 from it for what you will really get at the banks. The online exchange rate services take the average of buying and selling, so it is in the middle of what you really exchange your money for.
    So while xe.com says it exchanges at 14.5293 to 1 right now, we really get 14.412 at hansapank (our local bank, which is the biggest one around). That is also only if you are exchanging money that is in the account (we can have more than one currency in the account). If you are just trying to exchange cash, you get 14.355.

    clint
     
  15. Estonia and Canada do not yet have agreements in place for mutual visitation. Citizens from both countries must have a visa to enter the others' country. I usually have had no problem with getting visas, but officials also want health insurance in place before granting such. Until both countries negotiate some agreement this probably won't change (but could change once Estonia enters EEC - next year?). I might be back there in June, depending on my wife's situation and my need to go to western Europe for other business. Might you be one of the many ex-pats occasionally found in Tallinn at Molly Malone's pub?? We can carry this conversation on privately if you wish ([email protected]).
    Earon
     
  16. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    I will email you with more detail.

    No, haven't been to Molly Malones yet. Have walked past it a thousand times, though...

    clint
     
  17. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    The US never recognized the occupation of the Baltic States as legal, and continued to accredit (is that the term?) diplomatic representatives of the interwar governments.
     
  18. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    Isn't the phrase something like "recognized their sovereignty" or something along those lines?

    clint
     
  19. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    Also,
    Concordia International is located in Tallinn, Estonia. Most of their instruction is in English. It is really a B&M school, but I did notice that they had a joint MBA called the EXCEMBA that is in conjunction with two other institutions, one in Russia and one in France. The entire program is based upon six one week intensive classes, with extra work in between. 4 of the 6 are held in Tallinn, while one is in Russia and the other in France.

    Probably not useful for most folks, but there may be one or two of you out there... who knows.

    Concordia stands out here, because they do teach in English.

    anyway, thought it was more in line with the subject of this thread than my other posts...

    clint
     
  20. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Could be. The Latvians presented credentials to State all along, as did the Lithuanians; the Latvian legation in DC published a newsletter on Baltic diplomatic matters from 1940 to about 1993. There was an Estonian consul in New York (Dr Jaakson???).
     

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