Distance M.A. in Philosophy at Holy Apostles College

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  1. Tde

    Tde New Member

    International Catholic University http://icu.catholicity.com
    is offering a distance M.A. in Philosophy that is granted by the Holy Apostles College and Seminary.This college is "being accredited with the New England Association of Colleges and Universities, a non-governmental, nationally recognized accrediting association. It makes the International Catholic University courses available for graduate credit",the website states.

    How is this accrediting association (New England Association of Colleges and Universities) looked upon in the workplace?
    It states there that they are "being accredited",so I am wondering about their status too.Is the degree useful?
    Thanks.
     
  2. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

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  3. jcryan

    jcryan New Member

    Holy Apostles DL Philosophy

    Hello,

    Nice find. Thanks. This philosophy program looks great - I've been looking for DL philosophy graduate programs myself for some time now. This one has a strong curriculum and, at $6600 for the whole 30-credit program, not a bad deal, even without financial aid available now.

    It appears that Holy Apostles College and Seminary, which would actually issue the degree, is accredited by New England Association of Schools and Colleges:

    http://www.neasc.org/pssct.htm

    Nonetheless, the ICU website states "Holy Apostles College and Seminary is in the process of seeking accreditation for the Distance Learning Program, and has achieved licensure, i.e., the final step before accreditation. (Direct inquiries to [email protected].)."

    So the college issuing the degree is accredited, but the degree itself needs to receive accreditation? This I don't fully understand.

    John

    P.S. If you're searching for DL graduate philosophy programs, search the forum for University of Wales, Lampeter (if you haven't already). They have some solid masters programs by coursework, though not as broad as Holy Apostles' program.
     
  4. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Warning, warning--pompous clergy alert! Catholic clerics who use the word "athwart" are just like Lutheran clerics who begin sentences with "yes, for". Don't say you weren't warned, buster!

    Seriously, the program looks good if you can get them to clear up the details of the connection between the two schools and the program-accreditation question. McInerny is distinguished, if he's representative of the faculty.
     
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  5. Myoptimism

    Myoptimism New Member

    So...would this be construed as one of those non-masters masters because of the lack of prerequisites?

    If it has more transparency I would be interested.

    Tony
     
  6. jcryan

    jcryan New Member

    Lack of prerequisites

    Hello,
    Just curious...what do you mean by a non-masters masters? So, if a masters degree requires prerequisite courses, it is somehow more substantial than one without prereqs? I don't really understand the debate there.
    Thanks,
    John
     
  7. Christopher Green

    Christopher Green New Member

    We can add this to the plethora of MA's in phil now available via DL @ University of Wales~Lampeter.

    !

    Chris
     
  8. Myoptimism

    Myoptimism New Member

    Re: Lack of prerequisites

    Without picking sides, the debate is over the depth of knowledge gained. The argument is that a masters with prereqs (ie. a philosophy masters that requires a bachelors in philosophy with a language requirement) can achieve more depth than a masters degree starting from scratch. Ceteris paribus, I think it is hard to disagree with that argument.

    Tony
     
  9. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Yes, for the explanation has real Latin in it.
     
  10. Hille

    Hille Active Member

    MA in Theology - DL

    Hello, I just received an e-mail that stated they also offer a MA in Theology. Sorry if this is old information. Hille
     
  11. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    I'm assuming that the Ralph McInerny who started this deal at Holy Apostles is the same guy who works at Notre Dame...
    http://www.nd.edu/Departments/Maritain/cvrm0.htm
    I'll leave it up to Uncle J to say just how pompous he might be.
    Jack
     
  12. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    I don't think it was McInerny who said "athwart."
     
  13. Myoptimism

    Myoptimism New Member

    I'm sorry, but was this a jab Unc? Or was it an agreement?

    Or both? LOL :cool:
    Tony

    either way...
     
  14. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Do you guys have an irony deficiency or what?

    Yes, I think the program looks worthwhile, yes, for McInerny is impressive and Holy Apostles is accredited. As a former university instructor in Latin, I hope this program stands athwart our downward path away from Latinity.

    Now, go and sin no more.
     

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