British Columbia Open University

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  1. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Any thoughts about BCOU? I have looked through the archives here and and at AED. I don't see much mentioned. It apparently is associated with legitimate Canadian universities and the Open Learning Association. I don't see any accreditation info on their site but this may not be unusual for a Canadian university. I do find this message if I burrow into their web site.


    Business as Usual as BCOU
    November 13, 2002

    On October 30, 2002 the BC Ministry of Advanced Education announced that the British Columbia Open University's (BCOU) programs and services would be transferred to another public post-secondary institution in the province by September 2004.

    What does this mean for current and future students?
    I want to reconfirm that there has been no change to our operations. Students can continue to register in courses and programs offered by BCOU and the value of a BCOU and OC credential will be protected. We will meet all of our commitments to students, without interruption.

    As concrete information about the transition process becomes available we will be communicating with all students.

    Terry Piper
    President and CEO (Interim)
    Open Learning Agency
    Provost, BC Open University


    Since that time enrollment has apparently jumped 120%. Looks like a good program with reputable sounding name. Any additional info appreciated.


    http://www.bcou.ca

    http://www.ola.bc.ca
     
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  2. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    BCOU would be called a state university in the US. Canadian universities generally have no accreditation other than legislated authority to grant degrees. Athabasca University is, however, a candidate for US regional accreditation to allow better recognition in the US.

    The Province of British Columbia periodically tires of being Canada's wealthiest province and elects a socialist government that proceeds to destroy the economy.

    Presently BC is in the rebuild the economy stage and government spending is being curtailed. I assume that any reorganization has to do with saving money and programs will probably continue.

    Who knows, as the premier of BC who voiced that politicians should be held to a higher standard was charged with drunk driving a couple days ago. I suspect a resignation is coming.

    He will be the 4th to resign in disgrace in the last dozen years. Nice place;nutsy people.
     
  3. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Thanks for the additional information.
     
  4. triggersoft

    triggersoft New Member


    What exactly would that mean? ("BCOU´s programs [...] would be transferred to another public post-secondary institution [...]")?


    T.
     
  5. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    It could mean transfer of programs to UBC, Simon Fraser U or the U of Victoria.

    May save on overhead but have doubts.

    Mixed residential/DE schools don't seem to thrive as well as those totally committed to DE.
     
  6. triggersoft

    triggersoft New Member

    sorry,
    stupid german still doesn´t get it -

    a) is BCOU going out of business and the state transfering all of its programs and services to other institutions

    or

    b) is the text only about the possibility of BCOU students to transfer courses / degrees to other institutions?


    ---


    all in all, BCOU´s bachelor´s programs (they don´t seem to offer master´s degrees, hm?) looks even more interesting for me than excelsior, tesc and cosc because the latter three all have 30 credits "resident requirement" (in terms of US credits) wheres it seems like at BCOU (6 credit resident requirement!) I could transfer in a hell of a lot more of my European university credits... (and would only have to pass 2 of BCOU´s own online classes in order to get my bachelor´s).

    or did I get something wrong here?


    greets,

    trigger
     
  7. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    The plan is that BCOU will cease to exist in September 2004. BCOU programs will be transferred to other BC institutions over the next two years. There will be a portal, BCCampus.ca, that will provide an integrated view of DL higher education opportunities in BC.
     
  8. triggersoft

    triggersoft New Member

    That´s what I thougt.

    Thanks, oxpecker.

    So it might be wiser not to enroll in a program whose mother university will dissappear from the radar in 1 1/2 years...

    Besides, the name "Open University" always has kind of a "average" sound in European ears (British OU, for example, is respected, but always less than any brick-and-mortar UK university for Human Resource people).

    So I´ll maybe have to continue my search... - or just wait.

    Thanks and bye,

    Trigger
     
  9. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    My view of BCOU

    Hey there people.

    I see you're all chatting up a storm about BCOU and all.
    The provincial government is going to be moving/transfering the programs to another university. I highly doubt it was any of the 3 mentioned earlier (UBC/UVIC/SFU nor UNBC). I do believe it's going to go to Royal Roads because, Royal roads/BCOU was both created in '95 to enable another viable option for students to complete their education.

    Royal Roads has Canada's 2nd largest MBA/Emba program with 450+ students (after Athabasca with 1,100), however; they have only 2 bachelors degrees, and was recently authorized to provide a couple more bachelors. RRU is/was a primarily GRADUATE school (offered masters/graduate certificates & diplomas, now in the process of getting their first PHD program), therefore; I think the goverment is going to merge the two into one educational institution.

    If they do merge the two institutions into one, I do believe it would give Royal Roads a better "value" for students to choose.
    Another reason why the government would choose Royal Roads is because, their programs are all geared for working individuals, industry need, and primarily online/distance education.

    BCOU is a very good option as well as Royal Roads.

    AsianStew
    JIU Student (Grad ceritificate in Internet business/Ecommerce)
    Will soon be applying to Royal Roads for their Grad Dip in KM
    - MA in Knowledge Mangement.
     
  10. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    No such thing - at least on this side of the Atlantic.
     
  11. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    Re: My view of BCOU

    Royal Roads was a former military college (originally navy) that was turned over to the provincial government by the military and reopened as a university.

    The name Royal Roads carries great respect in western Canada from its former use.

    History http://www.rrmc.ca/about.asp
     
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  12. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Also, while it may be logical for it to go to Royal Roads University, if the Canadian government is anything like the U.S. government, the logical choice is often the least likely one.
     
  13. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    The Canadian military has 2 requirements when purchasing kit.

    1) It must be useless.
    2) It must be made in Quebec.

    What's logic got to do with anything?
     
  14. Mike Albrecht

    Mike Albrecht New Member

    What a minute, that's only 1 requirment, what's the second?:confused:
     
  15. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member


    Ouch!
     
  16. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    My wife Rosie has decided to apply here. We'll see if they accept the credits that Excelsior did not. I'll keep you posted.
     
  17. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    Well, favourable impression so far! Rosie registered 2 days ago for Sociology 102 at BCOU. We were expecting to wait a couple of weeks for the course materials, but they arrived this morning by Federal Express! The assignments look easy, as well.
     
  18. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    Another public notice from the Provost of BCOU:

    "On Wednesday, March 12, 2003 all twenty-six public post-secondary institutions in British Columbia received a Request for Expressions of Interest (RFEOI) for the British Columbia Open University/Open College (BCOU/OC). [...] The release of the EOI is a positive step forward in the OLA transition process and it has no impact on our everyday operations. [...] As the BCOU/OC transition process continues I will be communicating with all students and clients."

    -- http://www.ola.bc.ca/ol/whatsnew/
     
  19. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    "November 28, 2003 Update from BCOU’s President: The Ministry of Advanced Education (AVED), the British Columbia Institute of Technology (BCIT), and the Open Learning Agency (OLA) Board have agreed not to proceed with the transition of the British Columbia Open University/Open College (BCOU/OC) to BCIT. This decision represents a suspension of the current transition process for BCOU. AVED will be reviewing alternate options for BCOU over the next several months but wants to make it very clear to students that it is committed to protecting the unique services that BCOU offers."
    http://www.bcou.ca/About_BCOU/whatsnew.html#transition
     
  20. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    Wait a minute Dennis. You left one out.

    3) It must be Liberal Party approved.

    :rolleyes:
     

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