Where Have All The Dmins Gone?

When my DMins done, what's my fate?
Guess I'll go to Golden State!

http://www.goldenstate.edu/staff.htm

Where over 1/2 the faculty have DMins from:ACCS!

 

Not to mention an awfully high number of homegrown degrees from: GOLDEN STATE!

Even more telling is their FAQ, from which we draw this little snippet:

Kind of reminds me of Kevin Costner's great line from American Flyers: "Sounds like bull shinto to me."

 

Bill is becoming a poet as well as a Biblical scholar

North

 

I see this as a positive. GSST is an unaccredited school with faculty who have accredited doctorates. Am I missing something here?

BLD

 

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Although this particular point has been debated ad nauseum, a high percentage of "homegrown" faculty does not, IMO, guarantee that a school is millish. In many cases, yes, but not necessarily 100% of the time. I think of Bob Jones in particular which is an unaccredited Fundamental school. The quality of their academic programs or legitimacy of the school do not seem to be the issue with opponents of BJU. Some sectarian schools have been intentional in securing faculty who were somewhat "homegrown" in an attempt to maintain what they perceived as doctrinal integrity.

One or two of Steve's 70+ NIFI criteria do not, in and of themselves guarantee a school is millish. As Steve has said "there are always exceptions to the rule." When the number of NIFI criteria begins to increase (e.g., 70+) regarding a particular school, then caution is advised.

 

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hi Barry
No, I don't think in this case it is not positive. ACCS is a rare bird for several reasons as you know. It offers the DMin by DL and making it, I believe, unique is that one can focus in Bib/Theo as foundations to ministry. Consequently the DMin from ACCS can be similar to, say, a DA in Bib/Theol without the teaching componant, somewhat preparing one to teach in that area, at least in English Bible. What I do think is questionable is when the DMin in counseling or pastoral studies is used as a qualification to teach , say, systematic theology.
No, nothing wrong that I'm aware of, I just found it interesting, curious, coincidental!

 

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Actually I won my wife's heart with poetry.

Course it was a poem I'd written a year before for a different girl

 

Now Now Bill...

just because this works with the woman in your life doesn't mean you can do this with Distance Learning...

just remember that, with this dissertation of yours, you can't just "cut and paste" and get multiple, perhaps FOUR doctorates!!!

 

Thats right, Bill. Give Dr. Trudy a run for the money!!!!!!!!!!

Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Grover!

 

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Actually, this is a wonderful example of foreknowledge. God knew that the poem would eventually win the heart of your wife. Technically, then, you didn't actually write the poem for the first girl--but for your wife.

 

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Or perhaps my poem not winning the first girl's heart supports rather the Wesleyan heresy of losing salvation:

falling from "Grace"
falling from "Grover"

 

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Accs Profs

Golden State has ACCS profs teaching. i was wondering if there are other schools that have Accs grads teaching?
It seems like Luther Rice has profs popping up everywhere is this also true of ACCS?

 

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Or, perhaps he is merely trying to keep pace with Bill Grover!

 

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I dunno! I'd be surprised if an RA or ATS school ,given the fierce competition now Theo grads face for employment, would consider hiring a TRACS grad because of the degree. Were he or she hired more likely, I think, it would be because of other academic background or experience or connection. Of course a TRACS grad more likely would be considered by a TRACS school or a nonaccredited one.

Further, the Dmin is not generally the equivalent of the PhD, although there are plenty of Dmins teaching....very, very many!

Are you not at ACCS Robert?

 

still plugging away

Yeh! Still at ACCS.
I am finishing up MDIV requirments. I have two classes to go then i will go into the DMIN program. The reason i asked about ACCS DMIN grads teaching is that it seems Luther Rice has alumns in teaching roles scattered all over the place.
With the flexability of the ACCS program i would think you might see some popping up hear and there.


Robert

 

Re: still plugging away

 

Best wishes Robert. Be sure and let us know when you finish off your MDiv. Glad that ACCS is working out well for you.

(mampf mampf mampf) Mmmmm, good worms. Oh, sorry. That's another thread.

 

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You're mirthful tonight Unk. Was it that "Jacko" slip that did it?

 

Nope. Had parish emergencies all day & got caught in a snowstorm tonight. But I found a sermon for Epiphany (this Sunday) already written--did it last year and then did not use it.
O happy day o happy day O happy day...

Normally I enjoy writing sermons, but after
Sunday 22nd, Xmas eve, Xmas, Sunday 29th, New Year's eve, New Year's day
finding one ready to roll for Sunday is a beauty part.