Evangelische Thelogische Faculteit DL PHD

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  1. pastorbill

    pastorbill New Member

    http://www.bib.be/ETF/

    I have found a few of their grads teaching in Europe. Their tuition looks steep, 3790 Euro.

    Catalog

    I would love to hear some feedback.

    Are there other schools comparable this program of study?

    Unisa seems to have a good reputation with much less cost. This school seems to give an exclusive feeling. I like that. If you are going to do the work you should feel that it is on par with other programs out there. So much of getting a PHD is authority to speak to an issue. If you feel you are qualified it makes you more authoritative.

    I hear there are other Ph.Ds in theology out there. Besides African schools what are they? Cost is not the issue with me. I am in ministry and want to continue through my studies. Secondly, I really do not want to relocate again. I am finishing a ThM at SEBTS Wake Forest. We have two Profs with doctorates from Unisa. However, one is the pres. wife. The other is a Prof. of practical theology, with lots of ministerial experience.

    My primary interest in a PhD is for advancement in ministry. In so doing I truly want to earn my credentials. You know what I mean butterbean?

    Thanks,

    Bill
    BBA U of Mississippi
    MDiv w/ biblical languages SEBTS
    ThM candidate SEBTS
     
  2. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Bill: How would this school square with your denominational affiliation (if any)?
     
  3. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

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    You can find several sound programs through searching for "Bible Colleges" "seminaries" in the United Kingdom and Australia.

    I think "authority" is more an effect of demonstrating your knowledge/skills as the occasion requires than it is of having a doctorate. Of course, completing the degree program may prepare one more for such demonstrations.

    Sorry, the intent of the butterbean comment eluded me.
     
  4. pastorbill

    pastorbill New Member

    The idea of authority is more in terms of your audience. Inorder to gain a hearing one must have three key characteristics: 1) Pathos 2) Ethos 3) Logos. The idea of hashing it out in an academic arena means that one must be able to demonstrate a higher logos than in other settings. Knowing that one is informed and on the cutting edge allows one to be more authoritative.

    The butterbean comment was a token of good humor just to let those interested know that I am not all business and appreciate light hearted discussions.

    Thanks again,

    Bill
     
  5. Larry46

    Larry46 New Member

    And don't fergit Eros!!!!!
     
  6. pastorbill

    pastorbill New Member

    uncle jacko,

    I am ministering within the SBC and have a MDiv and will have a ThM from a SBC seminary. Hopefully this will establish my commitment to the SBC. The PhD would open doors for bigger opportunities at the local and denominational level.

    Thanks again,

    Bill
     
  7. pastorbill

    pastorbill New Member

    Larry

    Errrrrros????
     
  8. Larry46

    Larry46 New Member

    Yesindeedy, and thanatos, too.
     
  9. pastorbill

    pastorbill New Member

    In addition to the laws of rhetoric, I would appreciate your imput on the various DL PhDs in theology out there.
    Thanks,

    Bill
     
  10. telefax

    telefax Member

    Try http://www.gospelcom.net/bakersguide/

    Jason Baker has a list of international schools that have Ph.D. programs via research/dissertation. Also, Baptist Bible Seminary in Pennsylvania (Regular Baptist) has a modular Ph.D. in Biblical Studies.
     
  11. pastorbill

    pastorbill New Member

    I had checked out the link, and it was very helpful. I wish there was a more exhaustive list out there. The Bible Baptist Seminary PhD would be great if I were more interested in biblical studies.

    Thanks for the input,

    Bill
     
  12. CLSeibel

    CLSeibel Member

    Bill,

    Hi! I have been working with Jason to assemble the list of international programs appearing on the Baker site. Let me assure you that the list of international theological programs appearing on Jason's site is the most exhaustive to be found anywhere. At the same time, there are 4 or 5 schools whose information I passed on to Jason, but who have not yet been added to the list. If those schools were added, I am fairly confident that the list would be almost exhaustive. What you find on the Baker site is born out of about 7-8 years of my researching and contacting theological schools around the world. While a few options exist beyond those listed, these tend to involve institutions that are willing to make exceptional arrangements with non-residential students; however, these schools could not rightly be listed among institutions overtly committed to the provision of DL doctoral programs.

    Cory Seibel
     
  13. pastorbill

    pastorbill New Member

    Cory,

    I meant no offense. It is just frustrating trying to find the right programme! Thanks for all your work and input into this forum as well as to the Baker cite.

    Shalom,

    Bill
     
  14. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Uh, Bill:

    Jacko is a singer of indeterminate race.
    He (?) dangles babies.

    Janko is yours truly, who, not being a Calvinist, is indeterminate in a number of things.
    I baptize them. (Of course, that is another issue...)

    Best wishes in pursuing DL.
     
  15. CLSeibel

    CLSeibel Member

    Bill,

    No sweat--no offense taken. I understand your frustration. It was this very same drive to find the most fitting program that led me to spend years researching schools (I began exploring master's and doctoral programs while I was still an undergrad, and continued the search for a doctoral program throughout the duration of my master's studies). I'm pleased to say this search has proven fruitful: both Spurgeon's (MTh) and Stellenbosch (DTh)have been exceptional finds for me!

    Say, Bill, if you're interested in a PhD in theology, you might get in contact with Highlands Theological College in Scotland. They asked not to be included on the Baker site; however, they are quite willing to work with a limited number of research students on a non-residential basis. They have ties with Reformed Seminary and Westminster Seminary, through some cooperative programs, and have one alumnus teaching at Reformed Seminary. They are highly regarded by Dr. Mohler (sp?) at Southern Seminary, who has expressed an interest in seeing some of his own faculty members pursue research degrees there.

    Also, for someone with Southern Baptist ties, I would highly recommend looking into Capetown Baptist Seminary, which you'll find listed on the Baker site. They are a solid institution, with some faculty members possessing solid qualifications in theology.

    By the way, Bill, we had some folks from Wake Forest visiting in our church (in North Dakota!!) on Sunday. I'm not sure what they thought of our upper-Midwestern, North American Baptist brand of Baptist life. It was neat to have them here, though.

    Blessings!

    Cory Seibel
     
  16. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Cory, it's good to see you back as an active participant again!


    Bruce
     
  17. pastorbill

    pastorbill New Member

    Thanks for all the imput guys!

    Bill
     

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